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Old 08-17-2013, 07:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default desperate mom-GSD sick or is it food?

I am in need of help... I will try to break down this issue, but it is long...
I have a 3.5 yr old male GSD. We have been back n forth with the vets between 11/2011 and today with issues that are still not resolved.
11/2011-polyuria(excessive drinking)
12/2011-crystalluria-(not positive-but treated for anyway)
1/2012-UTI(not positive-but treated for anyway)
2/2012-enlarged prostrate(given antibiotic)
2/2012-crystalluria-(not positive-but treated for anyway)
3/2012-MIC lethargy
Then the begin of this year is where it all begins-he started urinating in the house again. given antibiotics, it goes away for bit. Then being concerned, the testing begins, blood testing(can't begin to list all the ones done since 3/2013), test for pancreatitis, urinalysis, urine protein, lepto, bun and creatinine test, more urine tests and cultures, another bun and creatinine test, xrays, ultrasound, 5 weeks worth of Baytril, folate and TLI test. After all these tests, everything comes back normal Every single test. Including urine. But, he has also lost 15#.......They have him on Science Diet C/D which is a prescription for the crystalluria-but what i am starting to wonder is-just because they think he has crystals in his urine- doesn't mean that food is agreeing with him-right?
My biggest concern is this-he only gets 3 cups of this C/D a day-he seems to be very hungry-he does drink ALOT, he poops about 4x a day-its very soft and yellow. So, if we feed him more food, then he poops about 6-9x a day and night. Since being on 5 weeks of baytril, the urinating in the house and so often is gone.. Still goes alot, but he does drink alot of water, which I think is due to the fact he is so hungry. And now he has lost so much weight.
I want to try a different food and see if that makes a difference?-but the vet wants to now test him for Addisons disease to keep ruling things out-This is our 2nd opinion-not sure where else to turn for help? Does anyone have any suggestions or opinions????

TIA!!!!!!: confused:
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long shot -- diabetes?
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he has also been tested for diabetes, and diabetes insipidus as well.....
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go to a holistic vet to look at a problem with a fresh set of eyes
because doing the same old thing isn't getting you anywhere .

15 pounds is a significant weight loss --
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At this point it may be worth it to make dietary changes.

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I would have said diabetes as well, how about EPI / SIBO tested for that?

Hope you can find a resolution, I hate "mystery" illnesses
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just got the test results for EPI yesterday-nothing......

I really in my heart believe this is a food thing.. And seeking another vet is what I am thinking too. But, today I am giving him some rice with his food.. Hoping he will feel full and its bland enough....
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I would change the water source.
Bottled spring water . Not chlorinated , fluoridated tape water . Or pedialyte . Water doesn't seem to be absorbed it goes straight through.

what is MIC lethargy?

I would change the food.
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I would change the water source.
Bottled spring water . Not chlorinated , fluoridated tape water . Or pedialyte . Water doesn't seem to be absorbed it goes straight through.

what is MIC lethargy?

I would change the food.


another term in their language for possible UTI and he was very lazy in the same time frame...

Didnt even occur to me to change the water source. I will try that too....
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Since the first ingredient is corn, its no wonder he is not doing well on it. I worked at the vets for 30+ years, every vet pushes Science Diet and especially the prescription ones.
I would look into other sources of food for him. And like mentioned above, check the water...
I also suggest another vet, this one seems to be stuck and something is definitely is wrong.
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