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hunterisgreat 03-08-2013 07:37 AM

Bloat caught on video... Must see
 
Dunno if this has been posted but should be a sticky.


skew12 03-08-2013 07:44 AM

Definitely sticky this.


After reading the ASPCA's info on bloat, it seems like anything could bring it on. I guess it's time to split my dogs meals up.

hunterisgreat 03-08-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by skew12 (Post 3131922)
Definitely sticky this.


After reading the ASPCA's info on bloat, it seems like anything could bring it on. I guess it's time to split my dogs meals up.

Split meals up, don't feed elevated, increase table scraps, no food that has citric acid in it... Current best study supported advice

skew12 03-08-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hunterisgreat (Post 3131946)
Split meals up, don't feed elevated, increase table scraps, no food that has citric acid in it... Current best study supported advice

Thank you. I'll put this into action today.

Will going RAW lessen this chance? I plan to do so once we move and will have room for a freezer.

hunterisgreat 03-08-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by skew12 (Post 3131978)
Thank you. I'll put this into action today.

Will going RAW lessen this chance? I plan to do so once we move and will have room for a freezer.

It would seem so. Elevated feeding is the big one. Originally thought to lower the risk, once the data started flowing in it was determined to be a contributing factor in over half the cases studied

Across all the same breeds and all the same bloodlines even, Australia has a dramatically lower incidence. This seems to be due to the much more common practice of giving the dog the family table scraps. I remember doing this is a kid. Bloat rates in the US have skyrocketed since kibble only became the norm as well as elevated feeding

Rangers-mom 03-08-2013 08:16 AM

Hunterisgreat - increase table scraps? Is that what you meant to say? I don't feed any table scraps. Is it a good idea to feed table scraps?

And why should I not use an elevated bowl? My 11 yr old dog has been using one for a really long time. I think it would be tough for him to bend down, but I will switch. Could someone explain why I should switch?

hunterisgreat 03-08-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangers-mom (Post 3132106)
Hunterisgreat - increase table scraps? Is that what you meant to say? I don't feed any table scraps. Is it a good idea to feed table scraps?

And why should I not use an elevated bowl? My 11 yr old dog has been using one for a really long time. I think it would be tough for him to bend down, but I will switch. Could someone explain why I should switch?

It's not natural to eat kibble or elevated.. Lower food/water forces slower eating and less gas intake. Kibble can produce gas, particularly kibble with certain ingredients. As far as table scraps... Probably the same reason raw diet is safer, but don't know why for sure.

Google will guide you:
http://www.google.com/#sclient=table...w=1024&bih=622

elevated feeding bloat - Google Search

Liesje 03-08-2013 08:41 AM

Probably because kibble is so dry and compact. It will change and expand a bit in the gut once eaten. Table scraps and raw...well they kind of are what they are. I feed everything but when I feed kibble it's usually not more than 1.5 cups at a time. I have heard of dogs bloating (and dying) that were only raw fed so I think there is possibly a genetic component as well.

skew12 03-08-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hunterisgreat (Post 3132090)
It would seem so. Elevated feeding is the big one. Originally thought to lower the risk, once the data started flowing in it was determined to be a contributing factor in over half the cases studied

Across all the same breeds and all the same bloodlines even, Australia has a dramatically lower incidence. This seems to be due to the much more common practice of giving the dog the family table scraps. I remember doing this is a kid. Bloat rates in the US have skyrocketed since kibble only became the norm as well as elevated feeding

This definitely changes my outlook on feeding. I never would have thought the height would effect the chances. The table scraps thing makes sense. It's closer to what a dog was actually meant to eat. Especially when compared to low end kibble.

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Originally Posted by Liesje (Post 3132274)
Probably because kibble is so dry and compact. It will change and expand a bit in the gut once eaten. Table scraps and raw...well they kind of are what they are. I feed everything but when I feed kibble it's usually not more than 1.5 cups at a time. I have heard of dogs bloating (and dying) that were only raw fed so I think there is possibly a genetic component as well.

I've seen this happen twice. My yorkie managed to steal some of my labs full sized kibble (BB). He'd throw it up later and the pieces would be swollen about 3x their normal size. They are now fed in different rooms to hopefully eliminate this chance. However the yorkie is a sneaky, sneaky dog lol.

JackandMattie 03-08-2013 10:57 AM

Thank you for sharing. I hope to never see it in person.


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