Temaryl-P for allergies

Sindyeli · 02-11-2013, 03:31 PM

My GS is almost 8 and is prone to allergies. At this point, we are sure it is caused by something in the house, perhaps carpeting, perhaps dust, but not food. In October 2011, he started having respiratory issues every 2 to 3 weeks, where is breathing seemed labored, he snored, and made "gurgly" sounds. My vet knows him since we've had him, and I trust him. He advised me to give him 2 pills of Temaryl-P when this happens; for a 100 lb dog, it is a small dosage but, surprisingly enough, it seems to be enough and definitely make his life better.
However, overtime we have brought that dosage to every 2 days. My vet has assured me that it's ok, only we'll have to watch for urinary tract infections when he gets older. So once again, I trust him, and apparently this is not a drug that develops dependence.
In the midst of winter and with temperatures as low as -12 F last night, we can't open the window every night (our limit is 7 F !), and Malik seems to be needing more, perhaps 2 pills every day? I am concerned to put him permanently on Temaryl-P. I am considering getting him tested for allergens and try injections but it is costly and there is no guarantee it will work. However, this appears to be my only other option.
This drug does make him pee more, but one great thing is that he's been free of ear infections, which he was super prone to.
I wonder if any of you have comments, advice, suggestions? Thanks ahead!

huntergreen · 02-11-2013, 07:10 PM

i would listen to your vet and use the meds. maybe you can cut back when it warms up and you can let some of the fresh air in.

gsdsar · 02-12-2013, 10:29 PM

Temaril-p had a very small amount if steroid in it. I think it 2 mg per pill. In a hundred lb dog I doubt you will have serious issues. However long term use of steroids can affect dogs. I would suggest saving the money and doing the allergy testing. It will be safer in he long run. Also I would start him in fish oil supplements, they have natural anti inflammatory properties.

Sindyeli · 02-13-2013, 12:17 PM

thanks for your opinion. He's been on fish oil for years, so fine on that side. I'll think about the allergy test.

msvette2u · 02-13-2013, 12:21 PM

What diet does your dog eat? Not that it's the cause of your issues (it doesn't sound like) but in allergic dogs, it's better to get them off some of the more common allergens like chicken, lamb and beef.

GatorBytes · 02-13-2013, 02:13 PM

What side effects may be seen when taking Temaril-P?
Side effects are usually dose dependent. If side effects occur, contact your veterinarian, who may decrease the dosage or frequency of administration. Side effects may include sedation, exposed third eyelid, muscle tremors, weakness, blood disorders, and an increase in drinking, eating, and urinating. Your pet may have more "accidents" and need to go outside or use the litter box more often. Less common side effects include increased appetite, weight gain, panting, diarrhea, vomiting, and behavior changes.
Side effects of long-term use include muscle loss, weakness, and the development of diabetes or hyperadrenocorticism (Cushing's disease). The typical signs of these diseases are increased thirst, urination, and appetite. Animals with Cushing's disease may also develop thin skin, a poor hair coat, and a "pot-belly."
Immune system suppression may occur, especially on higher doses, making a pet more susceptible to infection. Contact your veterinarian if your pet has a fever (over 103° F), painful urination (a sign of urinary tract infection), tiredness, and sneezing, coughing, or runny eyes.

NO drug "treats" allergies...you either suppress histamine or you remove the cause, reduce inflammation, treat the immune system...thymus gland

BOVINE COLOSTRUM: THE FORGOTTEN MIRACLE Dogs Naturally Magazine

If allergic to bovine...use goat

Marnie · 02-13-2013, 03:40 PM

I'd change the diet too. I'd put him on an LID with a very uncommon meat source like Buffalo or fish. It's not a huge, expensive thing and in three or four months look for any positive changes. I've heard the same things you have about allergy tests being unreliable so I'd leave that as a last resort. Sometimes you just have to plug away and remove things that might cause sensitivity one at a time. Start with food and treats, take away the toys he has now, take away his bed... Are you using topical meds for fleas? Just plug away at things and hope you find the source--and good luck. You must be very frustrated.

02-11-2013, 03:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sindyeli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jackson, Wyoming Posts: 317	Temaryl-P for allergies My GS is almost 8 and is prone to allergies. At this point, we are sure it is caused by something in the house, perhaps carpeting, perhaps dust, but not food. In October 2011, he started having respiratory issues every 2 to 3 weeks, where is breathing seemed labored, he snored, and made "gurgly" sounds. My vet knows him since we've had him, and I trust him. He advised me to give him 2 pills of Temaryl-P when this happens; for a 100 lb dog, it is a small dosage but, surprisingly enough, it seems to be enough and definitely make his life better. However, overtime we have brought that dosage to every 2 days. My vet has assured me that it's ok, only we'll have to watch for urinary tract infections when he gets older. So once again, I trust him, and apparently this is not a drug that develops dependence. In the midst of winter and with temperatures as low as -12 F last night, we can't open the window every night (our limit is 7 F !), and Malik seems to be needing more, perhaps 2 pills every day? I am concerned to put him permanently on Temaryl-P. I am considering getting him tested for allergens and try injections but it is costly and there is no guarantee it will work. However, this appears to be my only other option. This drug does make him pee more, but one great thing is that he's been free of ear infections, which he was super prone to. I wonder if any of you have comments, advice, suggestions? Thanks ahead! __________________ ~ Malik, GSD, 7 yrs old

02-12-2013, 10:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
gsdsar Knighted Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,274	Temaril-p had a very small amount if steroid in it. I think it 2 mg per pill. In a hundred lb dog I doubt you will have serious issues. However long term use of steroids can affect dogs. I would suggest saving the money and doing the allergy testing. It will be safer in he long run. Also I would start him in fish oil supplements, they have natural anti inflammatory properties. __________________ SARDOM Hanah Ike Lena

02-13-2013, 12:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sindyeli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jackson, Wyoming Posts: 317	thanks for your opinion. He's been on fish oil for years, so fine on that side. I'll think about the allergy test. __________________ ~ Malik, GSD, 7 yrs old

02-13-2013, 02:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
GatorBytes Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Southern Ontario Posts: 2,225	What side effects may be seen when taking Temaril-P? Side effects are usually dose dependent. If side effects occur, contact your veterinarian, who may decrease the dosage or frequency of administration. Side effects may include sedation, exposed third eyelid, muscle tremors, weakness, blood disorders, and an increase in drinking, eating, and urinating. Your pet may have more "accidents" and need to go outside or use the litter box more often. Less common side effects include increased appetite, weight gain, panting, diarrhea, vomiting, and behavior changes. Side effects of long-term use include muscle loss, weakness, and the development of diabetes or hyperadrenocorticism (Cushing's disease). The typical signs of these diseases are increased thirst, urination, and appetite. Animals with Cushing's disease may also develop thin skin, a poor hair coat, and a "pot-belly." Immune system suppression may occur, especially on higher doses, making a pet more susceptible to infection. Contact your veterinarian if your pet has a fever (over 103° F), painful urination (a sign of urinary tract infection), tiredness, and sneezing, coughing, or runny eyes. NO drug "treats" allergies...you either suppress histamine or you remove the cause, reduce inflammation, treat the immune system...thymus gland BOVINE COLOSTRUM: THE FORGOTTEN MIRACLE Dogs Naturally Magazine If allergic to bovine...use goat __________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. - Unknown

02-11-2013, 07:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
huntergreen Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,209	i would listen to your vet and use the meds. maybe you can cut back when it warms up and you can let some of the fresh air in.

02-13-2013, 12:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
msvette2u Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beautiful Pacific NW Posts: 11,005	What diet does your dog eat? Not that it's the cause of your issues (it doesn't sound like) but in allergic dogs, it's better to get them off some of the more common allergens like chicken, lamb and beef.

02-13-2013, 03:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Marnie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 466	I'd change the diet too. I'd put him on an LID with a very uncommon meat source like Buffalo or fish. It's not a huge, expensive thing and in three or four months look for any positive changes. I've heard the same things you have about allergy tests being unreliable so I'd leave that as a last resort. Sometimes you just have to plug away and remove things that might cause sensitivity one at a time. Start with food and treats, take away the toys he has now, take away his bed... Are you using topical meds for fleas? Just plug away at things and hope you find the source--and good luck. You must be very frustrated.

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