Hear we go again - Grim - Page 6

Cheerful1 · 02-13-2013, 09:39 AM

Praying for you as well.

lily's master · 02-13-2013, 09:43 AM

Get well soon Grim

**jocoyn** · 02-13-2013, 10:11 AM

I had a talk with the folks at Modiano labs and she is putting me in touch with the people at the Broad Institute doing DNA research. She says www.modiano will be updating their web page soon but still finding no correlation with finished PVC toys, plastic dog bowls, nylabones etc.

I am doing what I can to put any samples into the hands of the right people if he is positive. Honestly it is all I can DO to prepare myself for the visit (and spend time wiht Grim; I took the entire day off of work)

RocketDog · 02-13-2013, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocoyn

I recognized the vet he is seeing because it is the same one he saw with the back issue this time last year. He is a kind and reasonable man. One to paint your options realistically and one quick to consult with his peers.

This is so important. I'm thinking of you today.

**JeanKBBMMMAAN** · 02-13-2013, 10:32 AM

More info from Morris: Morris Animal Foundation | Search Results

Golden Retrievers Key To Longest, Largest Dog Cancer Study Ever Conducted

Cancer Information for Golden Retrievers - Golden Retrievers : Golden Retriever Dog Forums

The Cancer Risk for Purebred Dogs - WSJ.com

Sending all good thoughts and prayers.

**jocoyn** · 02-13-2013, 10:39 AM

Boy that Morris page has a LOT of links. Not sure I can get into them all today. WOW. Do we HAVE a hemangiosarcoma sticky (not about individual dogs but about research, testing, etc?

Rushing around no time to look

Courtney · 02-13-2013, 10:44 AM

You & Grim have prayers coming from Ohio. We are rooting for your brave boy.

LisaT · 02-13-2013, 10:49 AM

Nancy, I'm so very sorry

The day we found out that Max had *extensive* metastasized hemangio, I had the VDI test taken. They reported back, from their reading, he was okay. The number they report back to the owner was a bit elevated, but their second marker that they test but do not report, a measure of inflammation perhaps (I want to say it's the c-reactive protein, but am not sure), well, that was normal, so he went into the non-cancer category. I know you went through this with Cyra

Have no idea about the oncopet linked above: ONCOPET - Dogs

I firmly believe that Max's hemangio was held partially at bay by the doxy, which inhibits blood vessel growth that feeds tumors.

I will be thinking of you guys in this very difficult time.

**JeanKBBMMMAAN** · 02-13-2013, 10:52 AM

There's this:
Health Topics: Collective Wisdom

The Morris stuff is good/too much.

Are you saying you need information on making an accurate diagnosis?

LisaT · 02-13-2013, 10:58 AM

Those links in the sticky no longer work, you have to scroll down to the right section...

I am betting that the u/s will give you information. I am hoping it is good news, I am the eternal optimist...

02-13-2013, 09:39 AM	#51 (permalink)
Cheerful1 Master Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Long Island/Pennsylvania Posts: 706	Praying for you as well. __________________ Faust von der Graf ("Joey") 7 year old GSD 11-22-05; SchH3

02-13-2013, 10:11 AM	#53 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 11,891	I had a talk with the folks at Modiano labs and she is putting me in touch with the people at the Broad Institute doing DNA research. She says www.modiano will be updating their web page soon but still finding no correlation with finished PVC toys, plastic dog bowls, nylabones etc. I am doing what I can to put any samples into the hands of the right people if he is positive. Honestly it is all I can DO to prepare myself for the visit (and spend time wiht Grim; I took the entire day off of work) __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

02-13-2013, 10:32 AM	#55 (permalink)
JeanKBBMMMAAN The Rescues Rule Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 22,803	More info from Morris: Morris Animal Foundation \| Search Results Golden Retrievers Key To Longest, Largest Dog Cancer Study Ever Conducted Cancer Information for Golden Retrievers - Golden Retrievers : Golden Retriever Dog Forums The Cancer Risk for Purebred Dogs - WSJ.com Sending all good thoughts and prayers. __________________ Help IMOM help Pets www.imom.org Help a rescue: wish some big dogs a Happy Howliday! www.bigdogsbighearts.blogspot.com Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight. Albert Schweitzer

02-13-2013, 10:39 AM	#56 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 11,891	Boy that Morris page has a LOT of links. Not sure I can get into them all today. WOW. Do we HAVE a hemangiosarcoma sticky (not about individual dogs but about research, testing, etc? Rushing around no time to look __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

02-13-2013, 10:49 AM	#58 (permalink)
LisaT Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern CA Posts: 17,108	Nancy, I'm so very sorry The day we found out that Max had extensive metastasized hemangio, I had the VDI test taken. They reported back, from their reading, he was okay. The number they report back to the owner was a bit elevated, but their second marker that they test but do not report, a measure of inflammation perhaps (I want to say it's the c-reactive protein, but am not sure), well, that was normal, so he went into the non-cancer category. I know you went through this with Cyra Have no idea about the oncopet linked above: ONCOPET - Dogs I firmly believe that Max's hemangio was held partially at bay by the doxy, which inhibits blood vessel growth that feeds tumors. I will be thinking of you guys in this very difficult time. __________________

02-13-2013, 09:43 AM	#52 (permalink)
lily's master Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 219	Get well soon Grim

02-13-2013, 10:44 AM	#57 (permalink)
Courtney Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,403	You & Grim have prayers coming from Ohio. We are rooting for your brave boy.

02-13-2013, 10:52 AM	#59 (permalink)
JeanKBBMMMAAN The Rescues Rule Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 22,803	There's this: Health Topics: Collective Wisdom The Morris stuff is good/too much. Are you saying you need information on making an accurate diagnosis? __________________ Help IMOM help Pets www.imom.org Help a rescue: wish some big dogs a Happy Howliday! www.bigdogsbighearts.blogspot.com Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight. Albert Schweitzer

02-13-2013, 10:58 AM	#60 (permalink)
LisaT Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern CA Posts: 17,108	Those links in the sticky no longer work, you have to scroll down to the right section... I am betting that the u/s will give you information. I am hoping it is good news, I am the eternal optimist... __________________

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