My boy has red mange!

Del's Mom · 01-19-2013, 05:11 PM

I am so ticked at the breeders because they didn't disclose this fact. One would think you wouldn't breed a line with red mange since it is hereditary. I am now going to get him neutered because I obviously can't breed him.

msvette2u · 01-19-2013, 05:19 PM

How old is the dog/puppy?
It's fairly common for puppies to have DEMODEX mange, but as their immune system matures they are able to fight it off.
We use ivermectin daily as a cure, no dips.

Demodectic Mange

Sarcoptic mange is contagious to humans and any dog can have it.
Sarcoptic Mange

Zookeep · 01-19-2013, 05:36 PM

Is it localized or generalized? Localized usually goes away on its own. Ivermectin works great for generalized demodex mange.

**JakodaCD OA** · 01-19-2013, 06:11 PM

It looks like the dog is around a year old..

How do you expect the breeder to know the dog has "mange" at a year old and why would it be their fault?

MadLab · 01-19-2013, 06:52 PM

One of my dogs used to get this. I just use Iodine on the spots where she gets it. She had a patch on her back and on her legs. It seems to cure it very well.

TANDB · 01-19-2013, 09:21 PM

Has that hereditary thing really been proven?

selzer · 01-19-2013, 09:40 PM

Demodex mites are passed between dogs ONLY while the pups are nursing on the dam. The thing is though, that most dogs have demodex mites. They are only a problem if the immune system cannot keep them under control. Then they start causing the hair to come out and secondary infections. Often as the puppy's immature immune system catches up, the mites situation becomes controlled -- no problems.

If it is generalized, then no the dog should not be bred. It may be indicative of an immune system that cannot manage the situation, other problems.

If I had a dog with generalized demodex, after getting it under control, I would use Advantage Plus I think as that takes out demodex as well as the heartworm, fleas, etc., just as a preventative.

msvette2u · 01-19-2013, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakodaCD OA

It looks like the dog is around a year old..

How do you expect the breeder to know the dog has "mange" at a year old and why would it be their fault?

If the dog is getting demodex at a year, then yes, it's an immune issue.
Maybe they mean they know the sire and/or dam have passed on the propensity for mange? I don't know.

BowWowMeow · 01-19-2013, 11:05 PM

If it's localized demodex then you don't need ivermectin at all. In dogs under 2 years old it usually resolves on its own. It is very common! Rafi had demodex when I adopted him and I boosted his immune system and used a NEEM spray on the spots. It went away pretty quickly.

Del's Mom · 01-20-2013, 11:06 AM

It is around his eye, some on his hind legs and paws. The vet said it isn't so bad now we need to try dips, we are using Advantage to try and treat it that way. The vet said that it is hereditary, so no breeding him. WHICH is what I was going to do...... One would assume that the breeders knew this is in his line, they had the parents and the grandparents (to different lines from two breeders).

01-19-2013, 05:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Del's Mom Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Tennessee Posts: 62	My boy has red mange! I am so ticked at the breeders because they didn't disclose this fact. One would think you wouldn't breed a line with red mange since it is hereditary. I am now going to get him neutered because I obviously can't breed him.

01-19-2013, 05:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zookeep Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 294	Is it localized or generalized? Localized usually goes away on its own. Ivermectin works great for generalized demodex mange. __________________ Lila mit der Floppy-Ohr Ellie Rubmybelly Teddy the Fearless Chaz the Spaz Pokey - you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone Zoey - may you catch the UPS man Auggie -may you find the peace you never had

01-19-2013, 06:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 17,506	It looks like the dog is around a year old.. How do you expect the breeder to know the dog has "mange" at a year old and why would it be their fault? __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

01-19-2013, 09:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 20,806	Demodex mites are passed between dogs ONLY while the pups are nursing on the dam. The thing is though, that most dogs have demodex mites. They are only a problem if the immune system cannot keep them under control. Then they start causing the hair to come out and secondary infections. Often as the puppy's immature immune system catches up, the mites situation becomes controlled -- no problems. If it is generalized, then no the dog should not be bred. It may be indicative of an immune system that cannot manage the situation, other problems. If I had a dog with generalized demodex, after getting it under control, I would use Advantage Plus I think as that takes out demodex as well as the heartworm, fleas, etc., just as a preventative. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC & Babs, CD RA CGC HIC (not AKC) Heidi, RA CGC & Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC & Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly CGC & Bear Gretta Hepzibah

01-19-2013, 11:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
BowWowMeow Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 15,506	If it's localized demodex then you don't need ivermectin at all. In dogs under 2 years old it usually resolves on its own. It is very common! Rafi had demodex when I adopted him and I boosted his immune system and used a NEEM spray on the spots. It went away pretty quickly. __________________ Ruth & the 4 Legged Rescue Gang Rafi the malaroo http://www.dogster.com/dogs/693238 Gio & Varda, the krazy kittens ....In my heart: Cleo Kitty Chama Kai Basu Massie

01-19-2013, 05:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
msvette2u Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beautiful Pacific NW Posts: 11,005	How old is the dog/puppy? It's fairly common for puppies to have DEMODEX mange, but as their immune system matures they are able to fight it off. We use ivermectin daily as a cure, no dips. Demodectic Mange Sarcoptic mange is contagious to humans and any dog can have it. Sarcoptic Mange

01-19-2013, 06:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
MadLab Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 148	One of my dogs used to get this. I just use Iodine on the spots where she gets it. She had a patch on her back and on her legs. It seems to cure it very well.

01-19-2013, 09:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
TANDB Master Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York Posts: 695	Has that hereditary thing really been proven?

01-20-2013, 11:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
Del's Mom Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Tennessee Posts: 62	It is around his eye, some on his hind legs and paws. The vet said it isn't so bad now we need to try dips, we are using Advantage to try and treat it that way. The vet said that it is hereditary, so no breeding him. WHICH is what I was going to do...... One would assume that the breeders knew this is in his line, they had the parents and the grandparents (to different lines from two breeders).

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