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Old 12-22-2012, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy bloody diarrhea

My one and a half year old has diarrhea, this is her third day and today it's bright red. I've been giving her Immodium and rice with chicken or rice with pumpkin powder to eat. Usually it goes away after a day or so but not this time, it's her third day. She's active and running around, and isn't going very often, but when she does it's almost liquid. Today is Saturday and I will probably take her in to the Dr., but I wanted to post first since it's still very early here.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This sort of happened with one of my dogs recently, but there was only a little blood in his diarrhea I don't know how much always in your dogs. I to was giving rice, because it always helped before he had diarrhea for like a week then the 6 or 7th day is when I saw the blood I took him to the vet immediately they did a fecal exam and a full blood test it all came out clean. It was all very expensive , but they gave me two medications and told me to feed boiled chicken with rice and just let him get it out of his system, but if it started back up after the medication to call him and it didn't start back up. I would go to the vet better to be safe.
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Have you changed her food or anything lately? She may have a worm of sorts. Take a stool sample to the vet.
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First, yes - three days now turning bloody - get to the vet.

Take her OFF immodium - can be very dangerous for dogs and deadly in dogs with MDR-1 mutation.

Fast her for a day or two, but get to the vet
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No, no changes, she's always had a sensitive tummy, and has had fecal tests twice, both negative, but I guess that can change. Thank You.
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Thank you, a vet in the past told me to use immonium, why could it be dangerous? It certainly hasn't helped any this time.

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First, yes - three days now turning bloody - get to the vet.

Take her OFF immodium - can be very dangerous for dogs and deadly in dogs with MDR-1 mutation.

Fast her for a day or two, but get to the vet
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Drugs reported to cause problems in dogs that carry the MDR1 mutation. Information from the VCPL at Washington State University.


MDR-1 mutation is an inabilty to remove from the brain and can cause neuro disorders and even death - although it seems a predominant in collie breeds, it is considered a "herding" dogs mutation.

Perhaps this wasn't common knowledge before, medicine is still learning, and adverse reactions aren't always recognized and reported.


When you have digestive issues, then stick with psillium husk or canned pure pumpkin and slipper elm, marshmellow root...rest the gut - feeding aggrevates it...
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Thank you, Storm is doing better she had 2 shots & is on antibiotics, and no food today, and special g/i food tomorrow from the vet. He thought she has aggravated colitis.
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Thank you, Storm is doing better she had 2 shots & is on antibiotics, and no food today, and special g/i food tomorrow from the vet. He thought she has aggravated colitis.
My GSD's get into this situation a few times a year. And if I get behind the curve I end up at the vets with the same meds your pup is on. My dogs ALWAY act healthy and normal and full of energy when they have this going on....

If I am paying attention and get it early, I save alot of money and the girls get over it on their own. What works (and I have to notice their poos ) is the following:

1. When I see the watery diahhrea, it's NO FOOD for the next 24 hours. PERIOD. At the most I can give some canned chicken broth for the fluids and to help with my guilt for my poor starving dog

2. I usually give a few doses of Pepto Bismal pills (the bottle liquid would be a huge mess) during the 24 hours. Make sure there is lots of water available to prevent dehydration

3. Only after the 24 hours I start up with SMALL (1/2 cup?) meal of chicken/rice. I always keep chicken and rice soup in my pantry for this. If my dog continues doing well, same meal 12 hours later.

4. Yogert! A blop of yogert (my dogs seem to enjoy the vanilla ) on top of the chicken/rice seems to help their stomachs get back the good bacterial balance they need for normal digestion.

5. If my dog continues doing well with a 24 hour of only chicken/rice/yogurt then I slowly start adding their regular food to the mix (1/2 cup of kibble per meal?) for the next 24 hours.

IF MY DOG IS STILL SQUIRTING POO it's off to the vet if after 24 hours of no food they are having issues. Colitis needs the meds.
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Pepto bismol can cause internal bleeding; it's similar to aspirin.
Immodium is downright dangerous to dogs, in GSDs you don't have to worry about the MDR1 gene, but it can cause the GI tract to shut down. Stop working, this is quite dangerous. It can cause a pet to bloat, even.

Treating Diarrhea in Dogs with Imodium - VetInfo

Not to mention, when anyone/anything has diarrhea, it is the body's way of ridding itself of an irritant.
Rather than shut the GI tract down, it's best to figure out why the diarrhea is happening.

With bloody diarrhea, it is called "colitis", but it is secondary to something that's causing the irritation. This could be a mild thing, something the dog ate, or severe, such as "HGE", or pancreatitis.

It's really critical, after even 1 day of bloody diarrhea, to get the dog to the vet, and not try "home remedies" which may not work and may even be dangerous.

The best treatment, with your vet's approval, of non-specific colitis, or non-specific diarrhea, with or without blood, is either Tylan or Flagyl (metronidazole). But you need to check with your vet about these drugs as well and get correct dosages.

And above all, find the underlying issue and address it.
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