Post Spay and LESS Mature?!?!?@

[selzer]

Originally Posted by msvette2u

Well this girl's improving so I doubt it was a problem with the anesthesia.

There was a post somewhere, I forget where, about lack of O2 to the brain, and basically, where it would affect the brain is higher functioning, writing checks, driving cars, etc. AND fortunately dogs do none of those

I think seizures, by virtue of messing with the electrical system of the brain, cause more issues than a surgery would.

It sounds like the pup is pretty much out of danger, and getting back to her old self.

[msvette2u]

Originally Posted by selzer

But if the vet was thinking about the bottom line, then he would have sent her home, and told her to make an appointment in a month for the vaccination, another vet visit, etc.

AND sold her a bag of Science Diet to boot

[selzer]

Originally Posted by GatorDog

This is not questioning. This is an internet stranger giving out medical advice, not questioning. I don't ask my friends how they would treat a cavity.

Where I live rabies is required by law. If my dog bites someone without an up to date rabies vaccine, we are in a whole world of problems. Regardless of whether or not my dog had surgery within the last 6 months.

A sixteen month old pup should have had a rabies shot between 4 and 6 months. This is the same shot they use for the booster, for all of the boosters, that last 5-7 years, but they do over again every three years, just to be safe. So let's say this pup was vaccinated at 4 months, and is then due again at 16 months. Will it make any difference whatsoever if the vaccine that will last 5-7 years is given in 13 months rather than 12 months?

I don't think so. But I am not a vet. Frankly it is just a protocol to give a booster at 1 year, and thereafter 3 years.

In Ohio, I think how we stand is that if the dog has EVER had a rabies shot and bites someone, they are quarantined for 10 days,etc. just like if the dog is up to date. If the dog has NEVER had a rabies shot, it is a different story.

Currently, I think my four year olds are due for their rabies, and so are my seven year olds. since one is most likely pregnant, we are waiting. And I really don't care if we wait 6 months or a year. I would certainly wait if anyone was not healthy.

[msvette2u]

It's one thing to question your own vet or someone else's.

It's another matter entirely to tell someone to change vets and accuse their vet of "negligence", when that vet was following protocols and guidelines established by the AVMA.

[marshies]

I did tell my vet about Puppy's behavior, because I too was worried that if she was "off" for reasons other than being a teenager, that she shouldn't receive vaccines. The vet watched her during the visit, and made notes. Told me that it was likely just regression from the lack of exercise and structure, and told me to keep an eye and bring her back if I notice something else. She said she seemed like a normal puppy, and didn't behave differently from other dogs that come into the clinic.

This vet isn't the BEST of the best, but it is the best balance of convenience and quality that I can access, and they are professional and respectful of my decisions as an owner. When Puppy first came home, I didn't want to give her the third round of shots, and they respected that decision. They support raw as well as whatever I am feeding her. During our visit, they were also very accomodating to my requests. Puppy is more relaxed when she is on the ground vs the exam table, so the vet basically went under Pup's belly like a car mechanic to look at her incision. I am an auditor by trade, so I understand professional skepticism when it comes to receiving information from external sources. But at the same time, I trust my vet's judgement, or else I wouldn't be going to them. I did ask Gatorbyte for the holistic vets that he knows just to have as a reference for the future, and I thank him for his input.

All in all, thank you for the many responses in this thread. It's given me much to think about, and much to discuss with my vet if I ever felt the need again.

Puppy has always been a sensitive dog, in that she is sensitive to changes in my attitude towards her. She doesn't respond well to frustration, or to anger. She has responded phenomonally to just have more boundaries back. I will keep at this for a while and see if she continues to progress. I expect her to, and will keep you guys posted.

I was out tonight, and came home after crating her for 5 hours. She was ramped up and excited to see me. We played hide and seek in my basement with tug and food as a reward. She was REALLY worked up and excited during play. But since we stopped, she has settled down in my den with me very quickly. So her energy level is great, her apetite is great, her poop is good, and we are returning to good ol' lady.

I remember at the beginning of the thread freestep mentioned it takes 6 weeks for hormones to leave the system. Maybe she just needed a bit more time.

[marshies]

Originally Posted by qbchottu

Up the training, exercise and containment - young dogs act out and push boundaries. I am not convinced that this is correlated to the spay - probably just a coincidence. Don't jump to hasty conclusions as some on this thread are apt to do...

Thanks qbchottu. I forgot she was still a growing girl because she was such an angel for 4 months! I guess in a time of great change for her, she still needed the guidance and leadership in her life.

[msvette2u]

Originally Posted by marshies

Thanks qbchottu. I forgot she was still a growing girl because she was such an angel for 4 months! I guess in a time of great change for her, she still needed the guidance and leadership in her life.

She may always need that Just about the time you relax, and let up on things, is the time you lose an iPhone!

[marshies]

Originally Posted by msvette2u

She may always need that Just about the time you relax, and let up on things, is the time you lose an iPhone!

Please let us never think of losing another iPhone again. I cannot bear the thought.

Thank you for your advice. It is always great to hear so many diverse opinions.

[msvette2u]

My princess girl/diva Libby bit my phone once. I thought perhaps it rang and she had always seen me answer it, so tried to answer it herself
(she is that smart, too! LOL)

[marshies]

We are one more week along and still doing well!