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Old 12-04-2012, 01:02 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Yes. But you said it was a cause of ME in dogs. That link you posted says a possible link in CATS not dogs. They are not the same.

I cannot find anything that differentiates lead as the cause in cats, not dogs. Can you ref this...what heading is it under and please copy, b/c I am not seeing what you are saying (maybe too tired)

Endocrine testing(thyroxine [T
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] level, thyroid-stimulating hormone [TSH]assay, adrenocorticotropichormone [ACTH] stimula-tion); neuromuscular evalua-tion (acetylcholine antibody,antinuclear antibodies [ANA],muscle biopsy, creatininephosphokinase [CPK]); andtoxin screening (lead, botu-linum) are done to identify the more common secondary causes. The diagnosis, howev-er, is often idiopathic mega-esophagus
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:07 AM   #22 (permalink)
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If you look at the chart in the box in yellow, on the third page, (the one you referenced as a quick link without having to read the whole article to Cassidy's Mom) there is an asterik after the lead toxicity which reads at the bottom *diagnosed in cats. The article references BOTH canine and feline.

I tried copying and pasting but it was GIANT, and I don't know how to fix that.
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Getting back on topic (AHEM!)...I would take her into the vet for a check-up. I have known dogs that have developed Mega-E as adults and, as others have said, she could also have some sort of partial obstruction. Regurgitating, especially when it's something that's new, is definitely not normal.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:16 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Sorry.

I just think that if people are going to post links for others, those links SHOULD be factual and on topic. People that are concerned and in a state of worry often do not read the fine print, and they may be lead off-topic, as you suggest.
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If you look at the chart in the box in yellow, on the third page, (the one you referenced as a quick link without having to read the whole article to Cassidy's Mom) there is an asterik after the lead toxicity which reads at the bottom *diagnosed in cats.
(I cannot believe your eyes, I could barely make out that little marker - time for an eye test)

Ref # 28 (right next to lead poisoning)

28.Zook BC: The pathologic anatomy of lead poisoning in dogs.
Vet Pathol
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But that's not from the link you posted, because the asterik is FOR CATS.

Sigh.

And this is, as bowwow suggested subtly, really unlikely. Lead is not in that great of concentration anymore. It's far more likely that it's something else, and even if it IS megaE, it's not likely, even by the link you posted, that it's caused by lead.

Good grief.
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But that's not from the link you posted, because the asterik is FOR CATS.

Sigh.

And this is, as bowwow suggested subtly, really unlikely. Lead is not in that great of concentration anymore. It's far more likely that it's something else, and even if it IS megaE, it's not likely, even by the link you posted, that it's caused by lead.

Good grief.
What?
The ref # is right next to lead poisoning...scroll down to articles this cites and it specifically states dogs.

And it was a general comment, and quite possible, and a good heads up for people as dogs/pups chew on anything.
Public service done

Bolded - so, now you know better? So I am to assume, you were trying to demean my comment, you were wrong and now you're snarky....nice.

How about saying oops, I stand corrected...heavy sigh
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The reference just means they used that manual in the article about felines and canines. In a book about dogs, they may well use the fact that in cats, lead has been proven as a secondary cause of megaE. It does not, by itself, taken in context of this article, indicate that it is a proven secondary cause of megaE in dogs.

I do not stand corrected. I also didn't BOLD the comment. I italicized it, regarding that particular article. You did not reference the book that credit was given to for the link in cats. The article did. Capiche?
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Kaisers activity level and behavior are normal aside from sporadic throwing up. He does get bully sticks, but I haven't given him 1 in a few weeks because the last 1 he had upset his stomach. Like I said this is really a sporadic saying. He threw up a little bit yesterday but it was after playing with Dakota and drinking. Prior to that, I think it's been a few days since he threw up a little bit of food. I mean I would totally expect him to throw a little bit up if he ate or drank just prior to or just after exercising. My concern is that sometimes that isn't the case.
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Kaisers activity level and behavior are normal aside from sporadic throwing up. He does get bully sticks, but I haven't given him 1 in a few weeks because the last 1 he had upset his stomach. Like I said this is really a sporadic saying. He threw up a little bit yesterday but it was after playing with Dakota and drinking. Prior to that, I think it's been a few days since he threw up a little bit of food. I mean I would totally expect him to throw a little bit up if he ate or drank just prior to or just after exercising. My concern is that sometimes that isn't the case.
I'd call and talk to your breeder to give them a heads up and maybe get some info from them.

Be aware, if it IS megaesophagus and your dog is young, healthy and fit, then chances are your dog will lead a healthy normal life like the 2 mega dogs I have raised. Heck, Glory B just made it up to the Master level in AKC agility, does she look like she's sick or suffering to you???

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