Sick Puppy :( - Page 3

msvette2u · 11-10-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by huntergreen

heres hoping for a good outcome. might want to check out some other vets in your area if he has in fact overmedicated your pup.

It may be that the vet didn't want to rely on feed-store vaccines (or wherever they came from) and instead wanted to make sure the pup got vaccinated.
Other than the lepto- vaccine, I don't see much "wrong" with the way the puppy was vaccinated - we routinely do this in rescue without incident. The puppy gets spayed and rabies, if old enough, and dogs over 4mos. get spayed along with the rabies.

ps. Many vets won't accept you giving your own as a part of their "record" but they do accept what we do in our rescue as part of their health record. Often we get dogs from shelters where they were given their 1st vaccine and we add that to it.

GatorBytes · 11-10-2012, 02:51 PM

Here is info re: Adenovirus from the CDC site...note the gastro issues with

What are the risks from Adenovirus vaccine?

A vaccine, like any medicine, could cause a serious reaction. But the risk of a vaccine causing serious harm, or death, is extremely small.
Mild Problems

Several mild problems have been reported within 2 weeks of getting the vaccine:

headaches, upper respiratory tract infection (about 1 person in 3)
stuffy nose, sore throat, joint pain (about 1 person in 6)
abdominal pain, cough, nausea (about 1 person in 7)
diarrhea (about 1 person in 10)
fever (about 1 person in 100)

Severe Problems

More serious problems have been reported by about 1 person in 100, within 6 months of vaccination. These problems included:

blood in the urine or stool
pneumonia
inflammation of the stomach or intestines

It is not clear whether these mild or serious problems were caused by the vaccine or occurred after vaccination by chance.
As with all vaccines, adenovirus vaccine will continue to be monitored for unexpected or severe problems.
Note: Adenovirus vaccine is approved for use only among military personnel.

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Side Effects

msvette2u · 11-10-2012, 02:55 PM

In life there's always risk vs. benefits.
For the general population the benefits of vaccinating outweigh the risks.

When you've had a dog die of parvo or distemper you understand the benefits better, I think.
In rescue we see the fall out all the time of non-vaccination, it is not pretty.
I have rarely ever seen problems caused by vaccinations, and what few I have seen, were transient and easily addressed with benadryl (allergic reaction, 2 in 10yrs. of rescue).

Sunflowers · 11-10-2012, 03:07 PM

My cat had a neurological reaction to a vaccine. Walked funny the whole evening. Scared me to death. Luckily, he recovered, but the vet never gave him that one again.
I wonder what the OP 's vet found. Blockage, maybe?

GatorBytes · 11-10-2012, 03:12 PM

Rabies vaccine on the CDC site ref's guillain-barre syndrome in humans.

Now it does say rare...but then humans are not vaccinated against rabies every year or 3 yrs unlike our pets and although I don't have stats on how many have been, the likelyhood the mass population is NEVER vax'd against unless bitten by a wild or dog of question...so if it is safe then why not add that to the human vaccine protocol?

Over vaccination is unneccessary and not supported by science...what is supported is blood testing showing antibodies = immunity...TITERS

Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) - Autoimmune Nerve Disorder - Causes, Symptoms & Treatment on MedicineNet.com

msvette2u · 11-10-2012, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunflowers

I wonder what the OP 's vet found. Blockage, maybe?

I keep checking back, too...hoping puppy is okay...

The Strubingers · 11-10-2012, 04:07 PM

We had a lab test and stool sample done this morning, all came back negative. We are giving him something to take the water out of his digestive system to harden his stool back up, something to reduce the vomiting, and feeding him smaller amounts of food starting with a quarter of a can of ID 4x tomorrow and finally monday being able to mix half and half with his NutraMax.

Just as we expected, nothing severe like Parvo or anything crazy. The vet said it can't be anything too outrageous and if the problems persist after weening him back onto his NutraMax then to come see him again.

msvette2u · 11-10-2012, 04:10 PM

Nutramax isn't great food...if it has corn, wheat, soy, or by-products you may want to think about a different food

So glad he's okay. Those symptoms are scary!

The Strubingers · 11-10-2012, 09:49 PM

What is so bad about corn wheat and soy? I'm not a fan of by-products either and thought that NutraMax was mostly the real deal.

Sunflowers · 11-10-2012, 09:53 PM

So what did the vet say was wrong with the puppy?

11-10-2012, 02:51 PM	#22 (permalink)
GatorBytes Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Southern Ontario Posts: 2,137	Here is info re: Adenovirus from the CDC site...note the gastro issues with What are the risks from Adenovirus vaccine? A vaccine, like any medicine, could cause a serious reaction. But the risk of a vaccine causing serious harm, or death, is extremely small. Mild Problems Several mild problems have been reported within 2 weeks of getting the vaccine: headaches, upper respiratory tract infection (about 1 person in 3) stuffy nose, sore throat, joint pain (about 1 person in 6) abdominal pain, cough, nausea (about 1 person in 7) diarrhea (about 1 person in 10) fever (about 1 person in 100) Severe Problems More serious problems have been reported by about 1 person in 100, within 6 months of vaccination. These problems included: blood in the urine or stool pneumonia *inflammation of the stomach or intestines* It is not clear whether these mild or serious problems were caused by the vaccine or occurred after vaccination by chance. As with all vaccines, adenovirus vaccine will continue to be monitored for unexpected or severe problems. Note: Adenovirus vaccine is approved for use only among military personnel. Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Side Effects __________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. - Unknown

11-10-2012, 03:07 PM	#24 (permalink)
Sunflowers Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Florida Posts: 4,661	My cat had a neurological reaction to a vaccine. Walked funny the whole evening. Scared me to death. Luckily, he recovered, but the vet never gave him that one again. I wonder what the OP 's vet found. Blockage, maybe? __________________ Norden von Narnia--Hans, dob 1-15-2012 http://pdgf.pitapata.com/uC6lm4.png

11-10-2012, 03:12 PM	#25 (permalink)
GatorBytes Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Southern Ontario Posts: 2,137	Rabies vaccine on the CDC site ref's guillain-barre syndrome in humans. Now it does say rare...but then humans are not vaccinated against rabies every year or 3 yrs unlike our pets and although I don't have stats on how many have been, the likelyhood the mass population is NEVER vax'd against unless bitten by a wild or dog of question...so if it is safe then why not add that to the human vaccine protocol? Over vaccination is unneccessary and not supported by science...what is supported is blood testing showing antibodies = immunity...TITERS Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) - Autoimmune Nerve Disorder - Causes, Symptoms & Treatment on MedicineNet.com __________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. - Unknown

11-10-2012, 09:53 PM	#30 (permalink)
Sunflowers Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Florida Posts: 4,661	So what did the vet say was wrong with the puppy? __________________ Norden von Narnia--Hans, dob 1-15-2012 http://pdgf.pitapata.com/uC6lm4.png

11-10-2012, 02:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
msvette2u Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beautiful Pacific NW Posts: 11,005	In life there's always risk vs. benefits. For the general population the benefits of vaccinating outweigh the risks. When you've had a dog die of parvo or distemper you understand the benefits better, I think. In rescue we see the fall out all the time of non-vaccination, it is not pretty. I have rarely ever seen problems caused by vaccinations, and what few I have seen, were transient and easily addressed with benadryl (allergic reaction, 2 in 10yrs. of rescue).

11-10-2012, 04:07 PM	#27 (permalink)
The Strubingers New Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 11	We had a lab test and stool sample done this morning, all came back negative. We are giving him something to take the water out of his digestive system to harden his stool back up, something to reduce the vomiting, and feeding him smaller amounts of food starting with a quarter of a can of ID 4x tomorrow and finally monday being able to mix half and half with his NutraMax. Just as we expected, nothing severe like Parvo or anything crazy. The vet said it can't be anything too outrageous and if the problems persist after weening him back onto his NutraMax then to come see him again.

11-10-2012, 04:10 PM	#28 (permalink)
msvette2u Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beautiful Pacific NW Posts: 11,005	Nutramax isn't great food...if it has corn, wheat, soy, or by-products you may want to think about a different food So glad he's okay. Those symptoms are scary!

11-10-2012, 09:49 PM	#29 (permalink)
The Strubingers New Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 11	What is so bad about corn wheat and soy? I'm not a fan of by-products either and thought that NutraMax was mostly the real deal.

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