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Old 11-10-2012, 10:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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some vet insist that they get two shots of kennel cough, one month apart. They use the "it builds the immunity slowly like the 4 in one or 5 in one shots." Another money maker.Plus, not many vets use a 7 in one shot anymore, especially four of them. I am thinking this vet is old school.
I wonder if the pup ate something and a blockage issue is starting to show up.
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We gave the first 2 rounds of 7 in 1 in the home since I used to be a medic and pretty proficient with syringes and medications. The second two were given by the vet along with the 1 rabies vacc and kennel cough, which was given twice as the first time was a smaller dose to introduce it and then the second as a booster to get the white blood cells count up. He's still very well hydrated and did get around a half cup of food down this morning. We have an appointment with the vet around 0945 our time here in Arizona.

We are kind of thinking he might have found some puppy poop in the taller grass that we missed in our smaller community here. There are a few lazy people that don't pick up after their dogs unless people are around. There's a 6-7 week old white lab puppy a couple doors down that goes to the bathroom in the same area as our Gunner puppy does.
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Old 11-10-2012, 11:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yikes. That is a lot of vaccine. Hope your puppy is ok.
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We started the 7-1 at 9 weeks, 12 weeks, 15 weeks, 18 weeks. The last one we were skeptical about but the vet said 4 sets was normal as their immune system doesnt necessarily get to full strength until 3.5-4months?
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Doing the math, your pup is 10 days shy of 5 months, the last vax. was at 4.5 months...so the last 7in1 was a few days ago...what does running in circles mean? like on the spot or around the kitchen table or something?

Where did you get vaccines that you can admin yourself? Online? Please don't share the link

The vet should have titered instead of assumed...

Here is a holistic view vs. conventional view...even the conv. one does not list a 7 in 1 4x

http://www.organic-pet-digest.com/do...-schedule.html

Just so you are aware, even though maternal immunity might kick out the first vaccines, it doesn't protect against - mercury, aluminum, formaldhyde, msg. These all can cause neuro toxicity.
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We gave the first 2 rounds of 7 in 1 in the home since I used to be a medic and pretty proficient with syringes and medications.
Well. Many times the ones you can buy haven't been properly refrigerated, if from a feed store.

I NEVER fiddle with 7ways. Too risky, especially in puppies and small dogs.

This is the protocols we use here in our rescue and with our own dogs.
Community Practice Vaccination Protocols from the College of Veterinary Medicine

We also ONLY give core vaccines - not kennel cough. You do not need KC vaccines unless you'll be boarding. We've found them 1) totally useless and/or 2) actually make the dog sick.

This is why, although proficient at some medical procedures, people should always visit the vet for vaccines or at the very least, vaccine guidelines/protocols.

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it doesn't protect against - mercury, aluminum, formaldhyde, msg. These all can cause neuro toxicity.
This is not a proven fact and those ingredients are not in all vaccines.
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Old 11-10-2012, 11:41 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Sorry, it's not my intention to harp on this, just to provide more info for consideration to make informed decisions...and simply for the love of dogs.

Vaccine Reactions: Underreported and Unrecognized, Not Unimportant | Truth4Pets

and a short vid of what mild neuro reaction can look like...

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We gave the first 2 rounds of 7 in 1 in the home since I used to be a medic and pretty proficient with syringes and medications. The second two were given by the vet along with the 1 rabies vacc and kennel cough, which was given twice as the first time was a smaller dose to introduce it and then the second as a booster to get the white blood cells count up. He's still very well hydrated and did get around a half cup of food down this morning. We have an appointment with the vet around 0945 our time here in Arizona.

We are kind of thinking he might have found some puppy poop in the taller grass that we missed in our smaller community here. There are a few lazy people that don't pick up after their dogs unless people are around. There's a 6-7 week old white lab puppy a couple doors down that goes to the bathroom in the same area as our Gunner puppy does.
Parvo (if it's that) can live in the ground even after the poo is picked up.
There's a few other possibilities, as wyoming stated, a blockage or possibly coccidia or giardia.

I'd place my money on one of the above rather than a vaccine reaction due to mercury etc. (pure conjecture).

If dogs all had "neuro reactions" vaccines would no longer be used.
That said, I don't like adding lepto to our dog's vaccine protocol, it is a non-core vaccine and if I'm not mistaken, only two leptos are required for immunity, meaning that you overvaccinated for lepto by 2.

Your vet is correct that a series of vaccines are given until 4mos., but the usual schedule is 6-8 weeks, and every 3-4 weeks thereafter until 4mos.
We use this protocol with all puppies in our rescue plus our own puppies and have never had a reaction, also have gotten good immunological responses based on the fact the puppies never became ill with parvo (or distemper) in either our home or their new home.
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Aluminum In Vaccines
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heres hoping for a good outcome. might want to check out some other vets in your area if he has in fact overmedicated your pup.
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