EPI solution: Using pig pancreas or cow pancreas

Herc · 07-13-2011, 01:49 PM

Our GS was diagnosed with EPI two months ago...He has responded well to treatment using Pancrease V-Power, however, at $300 a month we are finding this medication a little expensive...
We found two butchers who will give us pig pancreas and cow pancreas each week.
Has anyone ever tried using the real animal enzymes as a food suppliement to dry kibble? Our vet is working on a formula for how much should be used per feeding.
Toyed with idea of buying a food dehydrater to turn the pancreas into powdered by may try the organ raw and mixed into his food.
Would love to here from anyone who has tried these methods of treatment.
Thanks!

Caitydid255 · 07-13-2011, 01:55 PM

We found that the pig pancreas works best. The fresher the better. We found that we have to give Angus pills as well. You need to play around with the dosage. 2 adult pancreas is enough enzymes for him each meal. Congratulations on being able to get the fresh stuff, it's almost impossible to get it.

Herc · 07-13-2011, 01:56 PM

thanks so much for your quick response....so you mix in an enzyme product as well. Do you feed your dog dry food as well or a wet/dry combo?

Caitydid255 · 07-13-2011, 02:07 PM

We put the antibiotics on his wet food. We have also started feeding him some Raw meet with his meals replacing some of the dry food. We are still experimenting with what works best. Our best results so far have been with TOTW high prarie, raw pancreas and raw venison. We put the antibiotics in a gel capsul which you can get from the vets.
Be very flexible in the amount of pancreas you give your pup as each pancreas holds different amounts of the enzymes. So a fixed amount is impossible to achieve. Also inspect the quality of the pancreas. We have found that some will come in a little off color, and those don't seem to work as well. Pretty soon you'll know which pancreas to feed and which to toss. It's quite a learning experience. Also cut up the pancreas before you feed it. This cuts down on the chances that when chewing some will hit the floor. Trust me, it can get messy.

Herc · 07-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Thanks...herc will soon be 1 years old. I feed him at 6 a.m. and 6 p.m.
how often do you feed your dog and how much per serving?

fuzzybunny · 07-13-2011, 02:59 PM

Not sure if you're aware but you can buy enzymes for a lot cheaper from

Enzyme Diane - ENZYME DIANE

Some Canadians also get prescriptions for Creon pills and it's less hassle because you don't need to incubate the food. Just thought I'd mention it in case the pancreas from the butcher isn't always feasible for you.

Jax's Mom · 07-13-2011, 03:58 PM

I've also heard that how you mix it in with the food makes a big difference. Some people put it in a blender and cover the food well with it. As with all digestive issues, you'll probably be doing a lot of experimenting. Good luck

Herc · 07-13-2011, 04:02 PM

Thanks Jax's mom....do you buy the Pancrease V-Powder for your dog or do you get it from a cheaper source? The $300 a month for four plastic containers of the stuff is a little expensive.....

Rerun · 07-13-2011, 04:02 PM

Just use enzymediane and save yourself the trouble and $$

Herc · 07-13-2011, 04:05 PM

enzymediane? How much does it cost and I wonder if it is available in Canada? Do you order it online?

07-13-2011, 01:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Herc New Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chatham, Ontario Posts: 12	EPI solution: Using pig pancreas or cow pancreas Our GS was diagnosed with EPI two months ago...He has responded well to treatment using Pancrease V-Power, however, at $300 a month we are finding this medication a little expensive... We found two butchers who will give us pig pancreas and cow pancreas each week. Has anyone ever tried using the real animal enzymes as a food suppliement to dry kibble? Our vet is working on a formula for how much should be used per feeding. Toyed with idea of buying a food dehydrater to turn the pancreas into powdered by may try the organ raw and mixed into his food. Would love to here from anyone who has tried these methods of treatment. Thanks!

07-13-2011, 01:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Caitydid255 Master Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 604	We found that the pig pancreas works best. The fresher the better. We found that we have to give Angus pills as well. You need to play around with the dosage. 2 adult pancreas is enough enzymes for him each meal. Congratulations on being able to get the fresh stuff, it's almost impossible to get it. __________________ Freyja GSD- 6/21/10 Angus GSD-02/11/07 Bevin (princess kitty) 08/27/07 Porsche: kitty 7/2012 Teddy (collie)- 1990-09/13/2006 Franklin (collie) 1996-06/26/2006

07-13-2011, 02:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Caitydid255 Master Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 604	We put the antibiotics on his wet food. We have also started feeding him some Raw meet with his meals replacing some of the dry food. We are still experimenting with what works best. Our best results so far have been with TOTW high prarie, raw pancreas and raw venison. We put the antibiotics in a gel capsul which you can get from the vets. Be very flexible in the amount of pancreas you give your pup as each pancreas holds different amounts of the enzymes. So a fixed amount is impossible to achieve. Also inspect the quality of the pancreas. We have found that some will come in a little off color, and those don't seem to work as well. Pretty soon you'll know which pancreas to feed and which to toss. It's quite a learning experience. Also cut up the pancreas before you feed it. This cuts down on the chances that when chewing some will hit the floor. Trust me, it can get messy. __________________ Freyja GSD- 6/21/10 Angus GSD-02/11/07 Bevin (princess kitty) 08/27/07 Porsche: kitty 7/2012 Teddy (collie)- 1990-09/13/2006 Franklin (collie) 1996-06/26/2006

07-13-2011, 02:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
fuzzybunny Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,347	Not sure if you're aware but you can buy enzymes for a lot cheaper from Enzyme Diane - ENZYME DIANE Some Canadians also get prescriptions for Creon pills and it's less hassle because you don't need to incubate the food. Just thought I'd mention it in case the pancreas from the butcher isn't always feasible for you. __________________ Carolyn Jazz, Shiloh Shepherd, 3 yrs old, CGC HIC Bunny, GSD X, 6 years old

07-13-2011, 01:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Herc New Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chatham, Ontario Posts: 12	thanks so much for your quick response....so you mix in an enzyme product as well. Do you feed your dog dry food as well or a wet/dry combo?

07-13-2011, 02:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Herc New Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chatham, Ontario Posts: 12	Thanks...herc will soon be 1 years old. I feed him at 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. how often do you feed your dog and how much per serving?

07-13-2011, 03:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jax's Mom Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,226	I've also heard that how you mix it in with the food makes a big difference. Some people put it in a blender and cover the food well with it. As with all digestive issues, you'll probably be doing a lot of experimenting. Good luck

07-13-2011, 04:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Herc New Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chatham, Ontario Posts: 12	Thanks Jax's mom....do you buy the Pancrease V-Powder for your dog or do you get it from a cheaper source? The $300 a month for four plastic containers of the stuff is a little expensive.....

07-13-2011, 04:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rerun Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,988	Just use enzymediane and save yourself the trouble and $$

07-13-2011, 04:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
Herc New Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chatham, Ontario Posts: 12	enzymediane? How much does it cost and I wonder if it is available in Canada? Do you order it online?

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