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post #41 of 112 (permalink) Old 07-28-2011, 12:06 PM
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Considering the speed of Riley's recovery, it is possible that there is repair going on (as opposed to or in addition to new cell formation). The neurons would take more time to regrow.
Yes, as I understand it-that is the contested point: whether the stem cells actually differentiate to form neurons (or other non-hematopoietic cells) or whether they provide growth factors that enable some repair of the host cells.

I see how interesting the research is and with Riley, and others like him, how important it may prove to be.

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My sense is that initially it is the latter, repair, and maybe at a later stage neurons are also formed. The success for DM is better when the disease is not too advanced, I am speculating that there are enough neurons to repair. The other dog that had his treatment over a year ago is still doing well (4the dog was worse than Riley), so the effect of the treatment is lasting.

The only way to know for sure is to kill the dog and analyze the spinal cord. Obviously no dog owner will allow that and no responsible veterinarian would do it.

I think that the attitude of the community has to change and they have to start accepting proof based on treatment outcomes, such as my video records.
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I think its wonderful how well your dog is doing, RebelGSD. I hope they continue to do research on DM with stem cells.
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post #44 of 112 (permalink) Old 08-07-2011, 11:19 PM
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Hi All

Hans is going in this Tuesday for his first Stem Cell Treatment. My doctor has the equipment in house to process the stem cells after he retrieves them from Hans. If all goes well, Hans will be home with me by 2pm. Please say a prayer for my puppy! I will keep you updated on his progress. Thank you all for all your kind words and information on Stem Cell Research. With any luck, no dog will have to worry about DM in the next couple of years!
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Great news that there may be a treatment of value. I wish it came 6 yrs ago

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Good luck to Hans, we will be beaming positive thoughts your way. This is a different approach from the one we used - I hope it works equally well.
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post #47 of 112 (permalink) Old 08-10-2011, 01:09 PM
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Hans came through the Stem Cell Procedure like the trooper he is and is home resting on his favorite pillow. Thank you all for your positive thinking and prayers! Hopefully we will start seeing improvement in 3-4 weeks.
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Positive healing vibes to Hans!

RebelGSD, I sent you a PM.
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Any news about Hans?
Riley recovered beautifully from bloat and is still happy, active and chasing the ball.
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Great news about Riley, keep throwing that ball!

Yesterday was 4 weeks since Hans' first treatment and he has shown improvement. Very rarely does he cross his paws in the back now and he is starting to get his gait movement back when trotting and not "bunny hopping" all the time. He still drags his left paw, but I haven't seen him this happy in about 6 months! I can't stop him from wanting to play ball! He goes in tomorrow for his 2nd stem cell treatment and to remove more fat from his other side to get more stem cells for use later on if needed. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers and I will let you know how he is after surgery tomorrow.

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