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Old 01-26-2010, 12:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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My GSD has pannus, and it's not a huge deal really. The best thing to do is keep the dog away from UV rays. The meds work fine and dandy, but simply keeping the UV out of the eyes works just as well and does not have as much possibility for side effects like drugs do. Doggles work wonders and GSDs with a set of goggles on look smashing.

My dog is on some stuff called Pred-Forte which is a steroid (prednisone is how I think it's spelled).
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I had no idea that sunlight could effect it. My vet didn't mention anything about this. I may have to invest in a pair of the goggles now. I just learned from one of my friends that we have an eye specialist that comes to my city once a month, so I may need to check that out. Thanks again everyone. I noticed in the sticky forum that some people's cyclosporin drops get really oily on the bottle and some have hard time squeezing the drops out. That's happened the past 3 bottles that I've used. It's extremely annoying. Speedy sits there impatiently as I'm trying to get those certain drops to go into his eyes.
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Old 01-26-2010, 06:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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i liked the bottle with the dropper better than the optimune ointment. i didn't like applying the stuff with my finger....
i always bought the half bottles of cyclosporin because it doesn't have much of a shelf life and can get cloudy and thick. as with any eye med you do need to shake it up so it will be mixed well before applying.
the cyclosporin is for controlling the disease and lubricating the eye, but usually the optimologist will give you a steroidal eye med to use with it..........eventually i only had to use the steroid drop when there was redness present.....

definitely make an oppointment with a specialist, usually a once a year visit will be enough, unless there are changes in the meantime....

yes, the UV rays can have a big effect on the eyes, also harsh weather conditions, wind, etc, can irritate things.....

i also found that diet helps, supplements, also because Pannus is an immune related disease my belief is that certain things can trigger it, like vaccinations, lyme disease, allergies, etc.........

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Max does best with the ointment, rather than the drops.
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i know the ointment stays in the eyes longer.....i think its whats easier for the person to apply...........
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I agree debbie.
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i think its better to start with the drops, because its quicker and the dog can get used to having stuff applied to the eye......then at some point if the ointment is suggested the dog will be more acceptable to having the eyes fiddled with.......
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Old 01-30-2010, 08:15 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I thought I would just pass on what is helping or at least seems to have made a big difference in my now 2 y/o gsd male. You can see my question on pannus and eye drops dated 12/20/09. My boys eyes got worse a few days after posting about possiblity of him having pannus. left eye increased in raised redness area in left outer corner of his eye, both eyes increased dryiness increased white goobers. I talked to my vet who also researched and was pretty sure thats what it was (pannus). She talked about doing a scaping when he was put under for nuetering surgery. well weather was icy then muddy so wanted to hold off on neutering so did more research on net and this is what I did:
ensured he got 2 ounces raw liver dailey
started cod liver oil 5 ccs a day
400 IU Vit E daily
2 fish oil capsules daily
eyebright herbal capsule once daily

noticied within 5 days left redness of eye gone, both eyes shiney wet looking, goobers almost entirely gone. now 2 weeks later eyes still looking lots better. so will continue this treatment and hope to get his neutering surgery done in next couple of weeks and have both eyes really looked at while he is under anesthesia.

He is a raw fed dog and he always got liver but was not real careful to ensure he got exact amounts on a daily basis and was scared he would get too much vit A with cod liver oil in past but new research put that fear to rest. I had been hearing lots about people and eyebright herbal supplements so did search on line and ensured that any of the herbs used in capsule where not harmful to dogs. I roll his capsules in peanut butter and eats them right down. My dad makes the eyebright capsules so know whats in them.

So will cointinue this treatment as long as things continue to be positive and still plan on having vet check them while under for nuetering surgery. will keep all posted on pros and cons and what the vet visit reveals. Now if I only monitored my diet and health as much as I do my gsds. HA. hope this long posts helps someone.
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I would be surprised if your dog has pannus. He is younger than pannus typically appears and your description does not fully fit pannus. Dry eyes and goobers are also not typical - Skye's eyes for instance were wet and the red is scarlet and covers all the white areas.

Then grayish brown fatty lipids begin growing over the eyeball, getting worse everyday.

I've not heard of a scraping to detect pannus - Skye went to an opthomologist (sorry about the spelling) and had a full series of tests much like what you might get at your eye doctor. There were no scrapings taken.

I cannot imagine a dog with true pannus getting better based on diet changes. If it works for yours that is great and I look forward to hearing more about that.
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Originally Posted By: Skye'sMomI would be surprised if your dog has pannus. He is younger than pannus typically appears and your description does not fully fit pannus. ......

I cannot imagine a dog with true pannus getting better based on diet changes. If it works for yours that is great and I look forward to hearing more about that.
I could see this as mild pannus, which would explain why it would get better with diet and, more importantly, immune mediating supplements.

There very well could have been an allergy component too though!
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