back in the 80's I was consulting to a guide dog organization that had one of my females as brood , I had a thema in place --
then later on, cross referencing , checking into similar schemes I wanted to see what formula in genetics that they were using that was most productive in positive , certified animals. I was privileged to view pedigrees.
jokingly I could call it the Bodo-m Line as in bottom line.
A combination of the Bodo's so to say . Bodo Grafental to Bodo Lierberg (Bernd etc.) That is what I have in my day to day foundation "Carmspack" -- with new and additive material always bringing in herding line genetics. Some show lines get introduced when I inheret them through Yeulett's of British Columbia . But when she selects a show line it MUST work -- Bazita Olympus is an example ,
here is an example of an early dog used with success -- one of 11 pups - 7 of which were certified working guide dogs into their 10th year . Here is her pedigree G Jamie V Stolzenfels
so you see Bodo Grafental. Then Jamie produced Jette , this pedigree brings in the herding lines Hodenhof's Jette V Fernheim
then she was bred , now bringing in the B - Lierberg lines
so a construction of Bodo Lierberg , B-Lierberg , OLD herding from early Kirschental , and a touch of earlier WGSL before there was such a chasm in the criterian for specialization. G Ingo Degen V Fernheim
This last set of genetics was the foundation breeding genetics for a closed set on in-house guide dog breeding .
I believe 45 % of the breeding stock at the time had some relation to Ingo.
DDR when combined with herding seems to do exceptionally well in these disciplines. Do notice that the dogs do have SchH titles -
It's all about the intelligence of working with -- genetic obedience ---- natural instincts .
Show line dogs tend to miss out because they have not been deliberately had mindful breeding for these qualities.
Same dogs go to police , same dogs go to the SchH podium, same dogs go to families as a loving , stable, sane , companion.
Longevity is important . Orthopedics are important. Working WITH the handler , not for ,
I have shadowed trainers . Invited into the inner sanctum of Canine Vision Canada -- to view pups developing and placing guesses on eventual success or not. Same with on-street training when the dogs were road tested on the busiest pedestrian way in Toronto.
Seen training for many uses .
I'll probably be shot down for this - the person who inspired this thread has a youtubey clip of a female , heeling in beautiful crisp schH style "fuss" , platzing, man walking away, dog being recalled , leash flapping behind, crisply reporting in front finish, and then crisply swinging to "fuss" , and then rewarded by tidbit of food .
Fantastic for SchH sport . But in all my years of being in the midst of different work-functional dogs and training I have not seen that much commando type of training . Disabled people don't work there dogs like this. There is much more required of the dog , free thinking , choices to be made, best positioning , listening to nuances, being interested in the handler and responsible to them .
That is why the 8 year old dog being offered to the gentleman with spinal stenosis will likely not work out . The dog is not a tool . By the time the dog and new handler got in sync , bonded , the dog will be much to old
This is a dog who is "set" in the ways of his former handleer.
Same goes for police work -- the dog and handler need time working together to become a team . That is why dogs tend to retire when their handler retires --
a matter of communication.
written in bits and pieces in haste - more to come later.