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Old 06-21-2012, 03:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I want to soooooo, throw in my 2cents on the article site, but am not a 'subscriber' so cant...These people paid or donation of 5 grand for this 7 week old miracle puppy. The trainer/owner is supposedly staying there for 3 days for some 'training'..

I think the difference in coloring/coat, is it is called a "fox red retriever" which may mean the color????

You can google the guy's site.. I was just wondering if anyone had ever heard of this org/breeder..or the fact that a 7 week old puppy is alert trained????
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Willy, And note that I said IF the conditions were right......That would not be common but I have had that one happen. There are documented distance alerts from 5 miles on human remains--but a whole decomposing person is a lot different than a blood sugar spike.

http://emainehosting.com/mesard/pdf_...t%20Alerts.pdf

The article does not discuss the 5 mile situation but that was mentioned in a presentation on same. Good article none theless and she is a credible resource.

Diane, yes he would be good to know who he is "Warren Retrievers"...legit or not?
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what do 7 week old pups do ? they sleep , "they" sleep for the majority of the day .

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But now that 7-week-old Malachi has arrived in their Pawcatuck home, the Hudsons likely will be sleeping through the night. ------------- (so will the pup)
The fox red retriever has been trained by a Virginia company to be a diabetic alert dog -------------(not WILL be trained -- has been trained)
at 7 weeks the dog is barely old enough to leave it's first home , not quite old enough to do a temperament test that is reliable . So what if I said a 7 week old pup was a bomb dog . Isn't that irresponsible to make such a claim when a life , or lives are at stake?

Here's your indication "The dog then repeatedly lifts its paw or touches its nose to a person's leg" and "the dog still should be able to detect whether Christian is having a problem at the school a half-mile away, and react accordingly." So every time the dog touches mom or dad at home because he can't possibly tell young Christian , the school is going to have an anxious parent descend on the school - false alarms all over the place. Escalates concern not alleviating concerns. Pup touches leg of mom to beg a biscuit , (normal pup behaviour), mom jumps to car and speeds to school . --- oh no , wait , in another week or two pup might be able to "Others have been trained to call 911 if no one is available to help."
brrrring , brrring, -- what is your emergency ? awruff, wowow ruff , -- stay on the line sir, we're sending someone now. It is so blazing hot I am giddy .

so they got the pup from a ", a nonprofit organization " --
from the philanthropic arm Warren Retrievers Nationwide Breeder of Quality Labrador Puppies in Virginia - which means for the good of the people , (no charge implied) , charitable
A friend who works for Connecticut Special Wishes put in a request and the organization donated $5,000 towards the purchase and training of the dog. The Hudson's continue to hold local fundraisers to obtain the rest of the money


------but the dog was bought for $5,000 , a 7 week old pup for $5,000 ??? and it seems like there are more costs involved because the Special Wishes well meaners continue to hold fundraisers to raise the REST of the money.

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Old 06-21-2012, 03:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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"Others have been trained to call 911 if no one is available to help."
brrrring , brrring, -- what is your emergency ? awruff, wowow ruff , -- stay on the line sir, we're sending someone now. It is so blazing hot I am giddy .
Apparently so- because that was freakin' funny!
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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A 7 week old pup out of the box trained to detect low blood sugar several blocks away...that's it I'm training Pan to find money!
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Carmen, my thoughts exactly! It boggles my mind and I had to read the article atleast 3 times to see if I was reading it right and thought, gee maybe that's a pic of the dog when it was puppy,,NOOOO it's STILL A PUPPY! EEEGADS!
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This is a topic I know something about as I have a 23 month [as of July1] male WGSD in training as diabetic alert dog. He started scent detection training at 3 months old and gave me his first alert at 4 months. 7 weeks? I hardly think so...as others have said, he is sleeping most of his day not paying attention to scents from a hormone change due to a low blood sugar. Judah is now at the point of his training that once he has alerted me, he knows to go and retreive my glucometer and bring it to me. Judah is correct about 95-99% of the times with me but there are the ocassional times he just wants a treat because when he alerts and is correct, he always gets the higher grade treat. He has also given an alert when he wants attention. This is why some trainers won't even work with a potential service dog until they are 2 years old. Also, this child only being with the dog 3 days a week is NOT going to help. The dog has to understand that it is his job to be on alert whenever he is with the diabetic. The boy needs a relationship with the dog - you don't get that only being together 3 days per week. This article is disappointing in so many ways because it is so misleading.
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I'm from the South so I will say, "Bless their hearts".
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:15 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I believe there are dogs that can alert for several different medical conditions. A study that was published in a Canadian journal stated that 15% of dogs have the ability to alert naturally. Of course some will never be matched up with an individual needing an alert and some that do alert are not recognized as such. Some people who have a SD trained to respond to their disability are amazed and pleased that their dog begins to show natural alerts.


(I have misplaced the link on the Canadian study so if anyone has it please post or send me a PM.)


But as to this $5,000 super puppy ....
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It has an email address at the end of the article. Really inclined to send an email if they are really serious about those claims or if it is just a big joke...
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