England to America

Xeph · 05-10-2011, 06:05 PM

I have a friend whose mother is coming to visit her here in the states. Her mother will be coming from England and has a service dog.

My friend is concerned about her mom's dog not having "papers" for here in America, but it is my understanding that her mother and the SD fall under the laws of wherever they are at the time, so it shouldn't be a concern.

Am I correct? Answers appreciated

Lin · 05-10-2011, 06:09 PM

My personal opinion would be that it shouldn't be a problem, since the laws here allow for owner trained dogs and say that places cannot request documentation... I'm not sure about the travel though, I don't travel or fly.

I would think the opposite would be more of a problem, someone from the states taking a dog elsewhere. I'm not sure about SD laws in Europe, but the ones in Canada are more strict than here. There, dogs must carry certification at all times in the form of papers or an imprinted harness from the training organization. And only service dogs from accepted training organizations are allowed.

**ILGHAUS** · 05-10-2011, 08:11 PM

The ADA/Dept. of Justice does not limit the laws to only cover citizens of the U.S. Any visitor would receive the same protections as long as they meet our legal disability definition and also that their dog has been trained to mitigate their disability. It is in the same vein as a resident of one state who goes on vacation in another state must follow the state's laws (in which they are located) concerning a SDIT or follow that state's requirements in order to receive any additional benefit offered by the state over that covered by Fed. law.

She will already be required to carry certain documentation in order to fly with her SD (health certs., rabies documentation, etc.) and that is all that she would need in any unusual circumstances while here. She would not need any of this for normal use.

Xeph · 05-10-2011, 08:13 PM

Thank you, ladies

GSDElsa · 05-11-2011, 07:39 AM

I woudl be more worried about going back across the pond with their concerns with rabies coming from the US>

Girth · 05-11-2011, 11:06 AM

I agree with Elsa. Use to be a 6 month quarantine to bring a dog to England but I don't know if that is still true or not. Our English members should be able to enlighten us.

wolfstraum · 05-11-2011, 01:16 PM

the dog should have a "pet passport" with it's vaccination history, and with that, can travel between the UK and other countries without problems. All European dogs come over with these when you import them as well.

Lee

05-10-2011, 06:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 4,764	England to America I have a friend whose mother is coming to visit her here in the states. Her mother will be coming from England and has a service dog. My friend is concerned about her mom's dog not having "papers" for here in America, but it is my understanding that her mother and the SD fall under the laws of wherever they are at the time, so it shouldn't be a concern. Am I correct? Answers appreciated __________________ Jackie S Konzert vom Drachenberg CD, RN, CGC, Service Dog "Strauss" Joplin von Eichenluft SDIT "Mahler" Mana's 5 Cents for Advice Marcato "Wesson" Devine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada" Barrett, the Woodford rescue kitty

05-10-2011, 06:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lin Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 3,243	My personal opinion would be that it shouldn't be a problem, since the laws here allow for owner trained dogs and say that places cannot request documentation... I'm not sure about the travel though, I don't travel or fly. I would think the opposite would be more of a problem, someone from the states taking a dog elsewhere. I'm not sure about SD laws in Europe, but the ones in Canada are more strict than here. There, dogs must carry certification at all times in the form of papers or an imprinted harness from the training organization. And only service dogs from accepted training organizations are allowed. __________________ Sorry dude. I can't live up to your expectations all of the time. Sometimes I'm going drink six miniature bottles of rum and then draw horses. That's just the way the world works. - Allie Brosh

05-10-2011, 08:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
ILGHAUS Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Central FLorida Posts: 8,296	The ADA/Dept. of Justice does not limit the laws to only cover citizens of the U.S. Any visitor would receive the same protections as long as they meet our legal disability definition and also that their dog has been trained to mitigate their disability. It is in the same vein as a resident of one state who goes on vacation in another state must follow the state's laws (in which they are located) concerning a SDIT or follow that state's requirements in order to receive any additional benefit offered by the state over that covered by Fed. law. She will already be required to carry certain documentation in order to fly with her SD (health certs., rabies documentation, etc.) and that is all that she would need in any unusual circumstances while here. She would not need any of this for normal use. __________________ TJ Karl's Kids Program Inc Animal Services 2000 Education * Community & Emergency Services Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project (ADAP) ADAP Blog

05-10-2011, 08:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 4,764	Thank you, ladies __________________ Jackie S Konzert vom Drachenberg CD, RN, CGC, Service Dog "Strauss" Joplin von Eichenluft SDIT "Mahler" Mana's 5 Cents for Advice Marcato "Wesson" Devine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada" Barrett, the Woodford rescue kitty

05-11-2011, 07:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
GSDElsa Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central, NY Posts: 3,706	I woudl be more worried about going back across the pond with their concerns with rabies coming from the US> __________________ Justine, mom to: - Elsa - BrightStar Rescue - "Da Pookins" - Medo Aritar Bastet - "The Beast From The East"

05-11-2011, 11:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
Girth Master Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Gainesville Fl Posts: 933	I agree with Elsa. Use to be a 6 month quarantine to bring a dog to England but I don't know if that is still true or not. Our English members should be able to enlighten us. __________________ Dogs' lives are too short. Their only fault, really. Carlotta O'Neill

05-11-2011, 01:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,089	the dog should have a "pet passport" with it's vaccination history, and with that, can travel between the UK and other countries without problems. All European dogs come over with these when you import them as well. Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

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