10 week Old Service Dog?? Went Missing Left In Yard? Questions..

DanielleOttoMom · 03-31-2011, 02:46 PM

So I love to read the news online. Yes call me nerdy but I like to know whats going on around the world. So.... I came across this article about a teens missing service dog.

Thought it looked interesting... Well after reading the article and was very disatisfied with what I read. Wanted to know your opinon? I'am not expert by any means on service dogs but things just don't add up for me.

1) Why is there a 10 week old puppy a registered service dog? ( I thought it took years to be trained)

2) Why would a some send a "trained" service dog home at 5-6 weeks old?

3) Why would you leave a puppy that young in a yard unattend? (Service dog or not.

She states that he is trained to stay in the yard. That is why she thinks he was picked up?? Really!?!?

4) Did she go to the media for fast attention to find her sons dog and lie about it be a trained service dog?

I'm just wondering what your toughts were on the matter. I'm not attacking people who need service dogs. I totally support and appreciate service dogs and all that they do.

Mesa teen reunited with missing service dog

robinhuerta · 03-31-2011, 03:19 PM

We just placed a puppy at 8 weeks old with it's "handler" for Service Dog work.
HOWEVER;...the "handler" is also the special needs person, who actually trains service dogs for the organization.
This puppy is living with the handler/owner and will be trained "hands on" for the work/functions that this puppy will need to eventually perform.
This is her 2nd puppy from us in the past 10 yrs, that will also be her Service Dog.
She is wheel chair bound, and he will need to provide the daily assistance required.
I will post pics of him in his "tiny puppy vest" when she comes to visit.....
His name is: XX Dos Equis von Huerta Hof (a teeny tiny brag).

GSDGunner · 03-31-2011, 03:21 PM

Did you read the comments? The mother, Tanya Ruth was commenting on people's posts. Most questioned how a 10 week old is a service dog.
Her response:
no kugo isnt completly trained yet but he has learned so much and he can already sense symthoms of my son james without james telling me this picture was taken at 6wks old he is the size of a lg chiuhaha now but he is great at his training and helps james and learns more and more everyday he is registered as a service dog with the service dog regrestry but yes it can take up to 2yrs for complete training which he does train 3x a day to get a more traing

This dog was donated to them at 5weeks old.

DanielleOttoMom · 03-31-2011, 03:32 PM

Interesting. I didn't think that was how things worked. I thought you had to apply for a dog/ puppy. Then basied on your needs and personality a dog/ puppy was them matched for you then sent home after the dog/ puppy graduatied from school after it was 1-2 years old. I can understand why someone who already does train service dogs and need a new service be sent a young puppy. I'm just want to educate my self for on the topic. Thank you for your reply. Robin I love to see pics of your little brag

I bet he has made you very proud.

Lin · 03-31-2011, 03:32 PM

That poor puppy taken from its mother so young.

There is no such thing as a service dog registry. They are scams where people send in money to get certificates saying their dog is registered, and they're completely meaningless. Though most of them still do require you to sign that your dog meets federal requirements to be a service dog, which no puppy could possibly meet. Those requirements are what takes 2 years of training.

You can acquire a dog through a training organization, or owner train. But in an owner train the puppy should not have been taken from its mother before 8 weeks old, and the dog wouldn't even be a service dog in training at 10 weeks, best would be a service dog candidate.

onyx'girl · 03-31-2011, 03:40 PM

I think if the dog was a seizure alert type dog it could go to the home at 8 weeks and form a bond with a child. Along with working with a SD trainer specifically for the childs health issues.
Some people I use to train with had a litter of Mals and one pup was going to a home with a diabetic child/the dog was going to be trained as an alert dog. Not sure how it ended up training-wise, or if there was success.

The comments below the article tell me this mother is not very intelligent or responsible. To say the pup was ready at 5 weeks? And knowing the pup wasn't trained, yet letting it out repeatedly in front to run away, almost getting hit by a car?

robinhuerta · 03-31-2011, 03:44 PM

We have known the "handler/owner" of our puppies for over 12 yrs now.
She trains dogs for a non for profit organization, that trains Service Dogs.
No dog through the organization is placed with their new handler/owner before the dog is completely trained and of adult age....there is a waiting list and an application process. (they mostly utilize Labs & Goldens).
OUR puppy is owned by one of the trainers...who is also a needing candidate of a Service Dog. We placed XX with her at 8 wks, because she wanted him that young...and she is the person who will be training him.

Dogaroo · 03-31-2011, 05:09 PM

Don't reputable service dog organizations also train the humans in the care & keeping of their service dogs? I can't imagine a reputable organization approving of leaving any service dog unattended in a yard, much less a puppy-- or, for that matter, taking such a young pup away from its mommy & littermates.

Lin · 03-31-2011, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogaroo

Don't reputable service dog organizations also train the humans in the care & keeping of their service dogs? I can't imagine a reputable organization approving of leaving any service dog unattended in a yard, much less a puppy-- or, for that matter, taking such a young pup away from its mommy & littermates.

A reputable organization would have strict rules and not approve leaving the dog unattended in an unfenced yard. However a reputable organization would not place a 5 week old puppy, or even a puppy period as a "registered service dog."

DanielleOttoMom · 03-31-2011, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lin

A reputable organization would have strict rules and not approve leaving the dog unattended in an unfenced yard. However a reputable organization would not place a 5 week old puppy, or even a puppy period as a "registered service dog."

This is exatly what I thought the rules for creditable organization.

03-31-2011, 02:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
DanielleOttoMom Elite Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,954	10 week Old Service Dog?? Went Missing Left In Yard? Questions.. So I love to read the news online. Yes call me nerdy but I like to know whats going on around the world. So.... I came across this article about a teens missing service dog. Thought it looked interesting... Well after reading the article and was very disatisfied with what I read. Wanted to know your opinon? I'am not expert by any means on service dogs but things just don't add up for me. 1) Why is there a 10 week old puppy a registered service dog? ( I thought it took years to be trained) 2) Why would a some send a "trained" service dog home at 5-6 weeks old? 3) Why would you leave a puppy that young in a yard unattend? (Service dog or not. She states that he is trained to stay in the yard. That is why she thinks he was picked up?? Really!?!? 4) Did she go to the media for fast attention to find her sons dog and lie about it be a trained service dog? I'm just wondering what your toughts were on the matter. I'm not attacking people who need service dogs. I totally support and appreciate service dogs and all that they do. Mesa teen reunited with missing service dog __________________ Otto Blk GSD 02/23/10 Circe Blk Sable GSD 06/22/08 My fur babies!! Last edited by DanielleOttoMom; 03-31-2011 at 02:49 PM.

03-31-2011, 03:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
robinhuerta Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,224	We just placed a puppy at 8 weeks old with it's "handler" for Service Dog work. HOWEVER;...the "handler" is also the special needs person, who actually trains service dogs for the organization. This puppy is living with the handler/owner and will be trained "hands on" for the work/functions that this puppy will need to eventually perform. This is her 2nd puppy from us in the past 10 yrs, that will also be her Service Dog. She is wheel chair bound, and he will need to provide the daily assistance required. I will post pics of him in his "tiny puppy vest" when she comes to visit..... His name is: XX Dos Equis von Huerta Hof (a teeny tiny brag). __________________ Huerta Hof German Shepherds www.teamhuertahof.com ....where breeding is still considered an art....

03-31-2011, 03:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
GSDGunner Knighted Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Near Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 2,195	Did you read the comments? The mother, Tanya Ruth was commenting on people's posts. Most questioned how a 10 week old is a service dog. Her response: no kugo isnt completly trained yet but he has learned so much and he can already sense symthoms of my son james without james telling me this picture was taken at 6wks old he is the size of a lg chiuhaha now but he is great at his training and helps james and learns more and more everyday he is registered as a service dog with the service dog regrestry but yes it can take up to 2yrs for complete training which he does train 3x a day to get a more traing This dog was donated to them at 5weeks old. __________________ Linda & Gunner 9/14/08 "Do not make the mistake of treating your dogs like humans or they will treat you like dogs." - Martha Scott http://www.youtube.com/GSDGunner

03-31-2011, 03:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
DanielleOttoMom Elite Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,954	Interesting. I didn't think that was how things worked. I thought you had to apply for a dog/ puppy. Then basied on your needs and personality a dog/ puppy was them matched for you then sent home after the dog/ puppy graduatied from school after it was 1-2 years old. I can understand why someone who already does train service dogs and need a new service be sent a young puppy. I'm just want to educate my self for on the topic. Thank you for your reply. Robin I love to see pics of your little brag I bet he has made you very proud. __________________ Otto Blk GSD 02/23/10 Circe Blk Sable GSD 06/22/08 My fur babies!!

03-31-2011, 03:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lin Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 3,243	That poor puppy taken from its mother so young. There is no such thing as a service dog registry. They are scams where people send in money to get certificates saying their dog is registered, and they're completely meaningless. Though most of them still do require you to sign that your dog meets federal requirements to be a service dog, which no puppy could possibly meet. Those requirements are what takes 2 years of training. You can acquire a dog through a training organization, or owner train. But in an owner train the puppy should not have been taken from its mother before 8 weeks old, and the dog wouldn't even be a service dog in training at 10 weeks, best would be a service dog candidate. __________________ Sorry dude. I can't live up to your expectations all of the time. Sometimes I'm going drink six miniature bottles of rum and then draw horses. That's just the way the world works. - Allie Brosh Last edited by Lin; 03-31-2011 at 03:35 PM.

03-31-2011, 03:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 17,605	I think if the dog was a seizure alert type dog it could go to the home at 8 weeks and form a bond with a child. Along with working with a SD trainer specifically for the childs health issues. Some people I use to train with had a litter of Mals and one pup was going to a home with a diabetic child/the dog was going to be trained as an alert dog. Not sure how it ended up training-wise, or if there was success. The comments below the article tell me this mother is not very intelligent or responsible. To say the pup was ready at 5 weeks? And knowing the pup wasn't trained, yet letting it out repeatedly in front to run away, almost getting hit by a car? __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo Last edited by onyx'girl; 03-31-2011 at 03:46 PM.

03-31-2011, 03:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
robinhuerta Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,224	We have known the "handler/owner" of our puppies for over 12 yrs now. She trains dogs for a non for profit organization, that trains Service Dogs. No dog through the organization is placed with their new handler/owner before the dog is completely trained and of adult age....there is a waiting list and an application process. (they mostly utilize Labs & Goldens). OUR puppy is owned by one of the trainers...who is also a needing candidate of a Service Dog. We placed XX with her at 8 wks, because she wanted him that young...and she is the person who will be training him. __________________ Huerta Hof German Shepherds www.teamhuertahof.com ....where breeding is still considered an art....

03-31-2011, 05:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dogaroo Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: State of Confusion Posts: 1,395	Don't reputable service dog organizations also train the humans in the care & keeping of their service dogs? I can't imagine a reputable organization approving of leaving any service dog unattended in a yard, much less a puppy-- or, for that matter, taking such a young pup away from its mommy & littermates.

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