Faking a SD

Barb E · 09-23-2009, 02:21 AM

So someone I know made a comment about getting a vest for a friend's dog off the internet so the dog could be taken places.

I of course told them this was a huge issue with me but I wasn't sure what the actual legal ramifications (sp) are if a person is caught.

Can someone point me in the direction of some easy to understand legalalities that I can send on?

Thanks a million!!

bergwanderkennels · 09-23-2009, 03:39 AM

Here barb I found this.
https://www.certifymydog.com/Home_Page.html

If my breathing trouble continues after my surgery then I am thinking of seeing about getting Hella my GSD Certified as a SD.

**Castlemaid** · 09-23-2009, 08:49 AM

I think that is not a real organization. Just a money making web site where people like the person Barb was talking to coulg get official looking stuff to abuse the system.

Anyone can get stuff for any dog. You don't have to prove anything, your dog does not have to meet any criteria (you only click on a button that sais that your dog meets "most" of the criteria) - and after that, you pay for your kit.

I think there is a bit more to that to getting a service dog certified . . .

AbbyK9 · 09-23-2009, 10:54 AM

The person who is considering passing their pet dog off as a Service Dog needs to understand that the dog has NO special access rights, only the DISABLED PERSON whom the dog is helping does.

In other words, if she is NOT disabled in a way where she would require the dog to do normal, everyday things, she could not take the dog anywhere even IF the dog were an actual, certified Service Dog.

As far as the legalities go, I am not sure whether there is a federal statute that would cover this, but in California (for example), passing a dog off as a Service Dog is a misdemeanor and can be punished by at least 6 months in jail and a $1,000 fine.

See - http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...9-1n1dogs.html

AbbyK9 · 09-23-2009, 11:02 AM

Certify My Dog
https://www.certifymydog.com/

Service Animal Registry of America
http://www.affluent.net/sara/

Those two organizations, as well as any other organization that offers registration or certification of Service Dogs over the Internet, without ever having personally seen or tested the dog, are not reputable registries and do NOT offer anything other than worthless pieces of paper and/or fake Service Dog ID tags. It's the same as printing the stuff up on your home computer.

Barb E · 09-23-2009, 12:14 PM

I was really hoping this would be a federal offense of some sort so I'd have some real ammo to perhaps get this person to stop.
I don't think me just saying it's wrong is going to do it.

**ILGHAUS** · 09-23-2009, 12:46 PM

What state is your friend in?

Barb E · 09-23-2009, 12:58 PM

TJ - Here in Oregon

And in case anyone is thinking this is about me and Dante (got some PMs) it's not.

Though I am not disabled this is a HUGE button for me and I would NEVER lead people to believe that Dante is a service dog!

**ILGHAUS** · 09-23-2009, 01:29 PM

Doing a quick look at your state laws I can't find anything on fakers. You can always contact your State's Attorney General and ask them.

State Attorney General
Oregon Department of Justice
1162 Court Street NE
Salem, OR 97301-4096
General phone number: (503) 378-4400
General email address: doj.info@state.or.us

Barb E · 09-23-2009, 01:34 PM

As always, thank you TJ!!

09-23-2009, 02:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
Barb E Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 14,437	Faking a SD So someone I know made a comment about getting a vest for a friend's dog off the internet so the dog could be taken places. I of course told them this was a huge issue with me but I wasn't sure what the actual legal ramifications (sp) are if a person is caught. Can someone point me in the direction of some easy to understand legalalities that I can send on? Thanks a million!! __________________ Dante - March 2004 Kaos von Wolfstraum Oct 2011 "Today is tomorrow's time machine" ~ Dr G ~

09-23-2009, 03:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
bergwanderkennels Master Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kreisgruppe 03 Mannheim-Rhein-Neckar Posts: 737	Re: Faking a SD Here barb I found this. https://www.certifymydog.com/Home_Page.html If my breathing trouble continues after my surgery then I am thinking of seeing about getting Hella my GSD Certified as a SD. __________________ Suzi “Ein Leben ohne Boxer ist möglich, aber sinnlos.” "A life with out boxer is possible but senseless" uberhauptnichtwieder (Never ever again)

09-23-2009, 08:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Castlemaid Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 9,089	Re: Faking a SD I think that is not a real organization. Just a money making web site where people like the person Barb was talking to coulg get official looking stuff to abuse the system. Anyone can get stuff for any dog. You don't have to prove anything, your dog does not have to meet any criteria (you only click on a button that sais that your dog meets "most" of the criteria) - and after that, you pay for your kit. I think there is a bit more to that to getting a service dog certified . . . __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD (HOT) Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH, OFA Good (HOT) "Bites Through the Sleeve" Cuddlebug, b: Mar 2009

09-23-2009, 10:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
AbbyK9 Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Country, NY Posts: 12,442	Re: Faking a SD The person who is considering passing their pet dog off as a Service Dog needs to understand that the dog has NO special access rights, only the DISABLED PERSON whom the dog is helping does. In other words, if she is NOT disabled in a way where she would require the dog to do normal, everyday things, she could not take the dog anywhere even IF the dog were an actual, certified Service Dog. As far as the legalities go, I am not sure whether there is a federal statute that would cover this, but in California (for example), passing a dog off as a Service Dog is a misdemeanor and can be punished by at least 6 months in jail and a $1,000 fine. See - http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...9-1n1dogs.html __________________ Malinois Ronja - fastest K-9 in VT =^^= Finn, Ratchet & Ollie Blog - Facebook - Store

09-23-2009, 11:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
AbbyK9 Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Country, NY Posts: 12,442	Re: Faking a SD Certify My Dog https://www.certifymydog.com/ Service Animal Registry of America http://www.affluent.net/sara/ Those two organizations, as well as any other organization that offers registration or certification of Service Dogs over the Internet, without ever having personally seen or tested the dog, are not reputable registries and do NOT offer anything other than worthless pieces of paper and/or fake Service Dog ID tags. It's the same as printing the stuff up on your home computer. __________________ Malinois Ronja - fastest K-9 in VT =^^= Finn, Ratchet & Ollie Blog - Facebook - Store

09-23-2009, 12:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Barb E Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 14,437	Re: Faking a SD I was really hoping this would be a federal offense of some sort so I'd have some real ammo to perhaps get this person to stop. I don't think me just saying it's wrong is going to do it. __________________ Dante - March 2004 Kaos von Wolfstraum Oct 2011 "Today is tomorrow's time machine" ~ Dr G ~

09-23-2009, 12:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
ILGHAUS Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Central FLorida Posts: 8,296	Re: Faking a SD What state is your friend in? __________________ TJ Karl's Kids Program Inc Animal Services 2000 Education * Community & Emergency Services Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project (ADAP) ADAP Blog

09-23-2009, 12:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Barb E Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 14,437	Re: Faking a SD TJ - Here in Oregon And in case anyone is thinking this is about me and Dante (got some PMs) it's not. Though I am not disabled this is a HUGE button for me and I would NEVER lead people to believe that Dante is a service dog! __________________ Dante - March 2004 Kaos von Wolfstraum Oct 2011 "Today is tomorrow's time machine" ~ Dr G ~

09-23-2009, 01:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
ILGHAUS Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Central FLorida Posts: 8,296	Re: Faking a SD Doing a quick look at your state laws I can't find anything on fakers. You can always contact your State's Attorney General and ask them. State Attorney General Oregon Department of Justice 1162 Court Street NE Salem, OR 97301-4096 General phone number: (503) 378-4400 General email address: doj.info@state.or.us __________________ TJ Karl's Kids Program Inc Animal Services 2000 Education * Community & Emergency Services Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project (ADAP) ADAP Blog

09-23-2009, 01:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
Barb E Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 14,437	Re: Faking a SD As always, thank you TJ!! __________________ Dante - March 2004 Kaos von Wolfstraum Oct 2011 "Today is tomorrow's time machine" ~ Dr G ~

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