oh no .
you have two black and tan show line dogs . They should produce black and tan pups .
no chance that this may solve the mystery quote OP "
". A crop out black and tan is a dog that is born with the black and tan coloring in a breed that does not normally have black and tan coloring. "
--- because black and tan is very normal to the breed .
Black and tan would not be the mystery as this is what you would expect .
The odd colours are the "sable" and the "solid black" .
Neither parent is sable . Sable is a dominant gene , not recessive , meaning one of , or both , of the parents need to be sable. Your dogs don't fit into this.
To be solid black from this combination- because there is some investigation into a "dominant" black gene -- well I would place a higher expectation on winning the lottery .
Count that out .
To this , a big NO.
"I started wandering whether some line work GSD was introduced in the bloodline of one of them and they donīt resemble it, but passed on to their pups, I think specially the dam, wich has a very "squared shape" and light tan hair beneath her black saddle."
Even if she had a working line ancestor , and even if he/she were sable , it does not matter . YOUR female is black and tan . Remember sable is a dominant gene , so any recessive or far-back speculation has no meaning.
Your female is black and tan and could stand stronger pigmentation .
That she is squared off does not mean she has working bloodlines . It means that this is her conformation . Period .
Nature requires effort to play in the extremes . Left to their own devices nature reverts to some middle.
Her background hasn't been driven by attempts to fit some show line requirement , just-a-dog . That isn't a bad thing.
About the consanguinity --- you had an accidental breeding . This is not scary tight inbreeding , rather more common linebreeding . So that would not be a deterent to getting the dogs out and placed in HOMES
quote " because of cosanguinity, and I was told when I bought them, because the father of the dam is the granpa of the sire. It didnīt matter to me, since Iīm not selling pups."
(2 - 3 breeding?)
If I understand your comment about not selling the pups -- you CAN'T keep 8 pups on top of the two you have.
Get the DNA done to ascertain the sire .
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Last edited by carmspack; 08-05-2014 at 03:55 PM.