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Old 11-12-2012, 09:33 PM   #41 (permalink)
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My Pano dog was raised in the city, quite close to the dupont plant which dumps a LOT of waste into the lake. So might be on to something there lol. My childhood dog started the pano problems when we were in the country though.
Eli was never fed puppy food, started with Innova Evo (before P&G owned it) which is quite similar to Orijen. This is what he was fed up until the Pano started. Eventually we tried some lower protein holistic foods. Tried some supplements. Kept getting pano bouts. Then did a ton of research on specific ingredients to avoid, calcium, phosphorus, selenium, magnesium etc... levels, did a ton more research trying to find a food that matched that, fed that food for 6 months and his poops were great but the pano bouts never stopped until he finally stopped growing. However he is a very big boy and was always a big puppy. Thick bones and grew fast - although steadily. He was 95lbs the last time I weighed him, and has always been kept quite lean.
I am always exctied about pano discussions hoping to figure out the answer some day.
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:30 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I have read that it could be, our 5 month old GSD was hit hard with Pano immediately after her 3rd set of puppy shots, which that one included rabies vaccine. Has anyone else noticed a correlation between pano and rabies vaccine. We are treating her with an anti-inflammatory 2x daily as needed as per the vet. She is still in a bit of pain as she favors a couple legs still and will whimper if the other dog bumps her wrong when they are playing. I think it is going to be a long couple of years.

We have well water also, it is high in calcium-should I be buying bottled water or getting jugs of city water? What do you think?

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Old 01-22-2015, 02:33 PM   #43 (permalink)
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In Deja's litter all the males (the larger and smaller ones) had Pano and none of the females. The females are petite. She is 15 months old and weighs 60 pounds.
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:46 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Well water could very well play into the extra minerals, etc. After researching diet for kidney issues, filtered water is recommended so the dog doesn't have to process extra minerals. Though where I live, it is very sandy soil and our water is really good, clear and not real hard or rusty.
As far as vaccines playing into Pano, I don't think it does. My females first bout was at 6 months, her rabies vax was at 4 months.
After reading about Dr. Dodds protocols, I'd never give the rabies vaccine with others. Space them out at least two weeks apart.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:38 PM   #45 (permalink)
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When my female German shepherd dog was 7-9 months old, she got it. I don't understand because she was always on the lean side. In fact, she grew very slowly too and never was quick to fill out...
I'm not sure if it's genetic or not, but all I know is despite the fact my Dakota wasn't fat at all and didn't grow quickly, she suffered from pano from about 2 weeks!
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Riley had it in his front leg. Kaleb had it really bad. It eventually went to all his legs. He's fine now. The breeder said his grandfather also had pano really bad.
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:23 AM   #47 (permalink)
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When my female German shepherd dog was 7-9 months old, she got it. I don't understand because she was always on the lean side. In fact, she grew very slowly too and never was quick to fill out...
I'm not sure if it's genetic or not, but all I know is despite the fact my Dakota wasn't fat at all and didn't grow quickly, she suffered from pano from about 2 weeks!
Pano is genetic. It doesn't always happen though. Sadly Zeus had it flare up 4 times. It goes away when they stop growing.
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:24 AM   #48 (permalink)
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My 7 mo WGWL pup is on his 2d bout with panno. The first was pretty bad & lasted the standard full month. He's on adult formula Wellness.

He's growing fast, poor guy. He's just started holding his paw up, so we're starting another round.

I had a WGSL male several years ago who grew like crazy, I mean he was bigger every 2 hours. He developed panno in all 4 legs (epiphystitis).

I refuse to give rimadyl, so it's tough. Just baby aspirin for the inflammation.

I need to check with my pup's breeder to see if it's in the lines.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:49 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Areli had her first (and prayerfully last) bout in left forearm. She was seriously seriously lame, moaned and groaned. Thankfully it only lasted a few days, by week end she was fine. Her father had pano in 3 legs... Aspirin (didn't have arnica at the time), high doses of beer pollen/vitamin C, upped dose of her Joint Health (has msm) and Fresh Factors and rest... I did reduce her protein intake for 2 days just in case.. She is very lean, but at 84lbs at 38wks,she is a bit oversized...
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