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Old 11-12-2012, 10:33 PM   #41 (permalink)
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My Pano dog was raised in the city, quite close to the dupont plant which dumps a LOT of waste into the lake. So might be on to something there lol. My childhood dog started the pano problems when we were in the country though.
Eli was never fed puppy food, started with Innova Evo (before P&G owned it) which is quite similar to Orijen. This is what he was fed up until the Pano started. Eventually we tried some lower protein holistic foods. Tried some supplements. Kept getting pano bouts. Then did a ton of research on specific ingredients to avoid, calcium, phosphorus, selenium, magnesium etc... levels, did a ton more research trying to find a food that matched that, fed that food for 6 months and his poops were great but the pano bouts never stopped until he finally stopped growing. However he is a very big boy and was always a big puppy. Thick bones and grew fast - although steadily. He was 95lbs the last time I weighed him, and has always been kept quite lean.
I am always exctied about pano discussions hoping to figure out the answer some day.
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Old 01-22-2015, 12:30 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I have read that it could be, our 5 month old GSD was hit hard with Pano immediately after her 3rd set of puppy shots, which that one included rabies vaccine. Has anyone else noticed a correlation between pano and rabies vaccine. We are treating her with an anti-inflammatory 2x daily as needed as per the vet. She is still in a bit of pain as she favors a couple legs still and will whimper if the other dog bumps her wrong when they are playing. I think it is going to be a long couple of years.

We have well water also, it is high in calcium-should I be buying bottled water or getting jugs of city water? What do you think?

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Old 01-22-2015, 03:33 PM   #43 (permalink)
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In Deja's litter all the males (the larger and smaller ones) had Pano and none of the females. The females are petite. She is 15 months old and weighs 60 pounds.
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:46 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Well water could very well play into the extra minerals, etc. After researching diet for kidney issues, filtered water is recommended so the dog doesn't have to process extra minerals. Though where I live, it is very sandy soil and our water is really good, clear and not real hard or rusty.
As far as vaccines playing into Pano, I don't think it does. My females first bout was at 6 months, her rabies vax was at 4 months.
After reading about Dr. Dodds protocols, I'd never give the rabies vaccine with others. Space them out at least two weeks apart.
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