Solid Black WGSL??

Danielle609 · 01-28-2012, 07:16 AM

I was looking over the PDB forums and saw a post about a solid black WGSL from Russia. She was a beauty, but it has me a tad confused. Are there really solid black ones? I know there are obviously in the WL GSD's, but this is the first I have heard of this in WGSL's. Does anyone want to fill me in?

Thanks!

robk · 01-28-2012, 07:56 AM

Can't answer the question, however, check this dog out: V Voodoo Hartis Bohemia - German Shepherd Dog

He is a working line dog but I have heard that he is being crossed onto showlines. Not really sure what is the desired end result but I think it is possible for blacks to show up in the genetics if dogs like this are being introduced to the lines.

Danielle609 · 01-28-2012, 07:58 AM

That is sort of my question. Are the solid black pure WGSL or have the had WL mixed into them. I don't know much about genetics or the black gene. But I am intrigued by this for some reason.

LaRen616 · 01-28-2012, 08:13 AM

I am about 95% sure there are black WGSL.

Doc · 01-28-2012, 10:09 AM

There are solid black show dogs. Unfortunately the rave is black and red - has been for years. For some reason (?), solid black show dogs are looked favorably upon. They just don't fit the cookie cutter mentality. Go figure.

Emoore · 01-28-2012, 10:32 AM

Yeah, that's the discussion about the elusive dominant black gene. Black is recessive in GSDs but there are rumors about a line of Show Line dogs out of Eastern Europe that carry a dominant black gene. There's good evidence for it, but I think the person on the thread you're talking about may be about to get scammed.

Danielle609 · 01-28-2012, 10:45 AM

I am going to be honest Emoore, I tried to follow the current thread, but gave up Way over my head! I saw that they had posted that female from Russia...was someone thinking about purchasing it?

Emoore · 01-28-2012, 11:24 AM

I think so.

Danielle609 · 01-28-2012, 11:45 AM

I am curious to see how that plays out.... I think it has a 30+ page PDB thread written all over it :-)

**Cassidy's Mom** · 01-28-2012, 12:27 PM

I was at an AKC show years ago and there was a solid black ASL dog, which I'd never seen before or since. Gorgeous dog! I haven't seen a black German showline dog before.

01-28-2012, 07:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
Danielle609 Master Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cascade, Michigan (GR) Posts: 532	Solid Black WGSL?? I was looking over the PDB forums and saw a post about a solid black WGSL from Russia. She was a beauty, but it has me a tad confused. Are there really solid black ones? I know there are obviously in the WL GSD's, but this is the first I have heard of this in WGSL's. Does anyone want to fill me in? Thanks! __________________ " If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then giving Fido only two of them" Starting the search for my next family member! Danielle

01-28-2012, 07:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
robk Master Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 572	Can't answer the question, however, check this dog out: V Voodoo Hartis Bohemia - German Shepherd Dog He is a working line dog but I have heard that he is being crossed onto showlines. Not really sure what is the desired end result but I think it is possible for blacks to show up in the genetics if dogs like this are being introduced to the lines. __________________ Honor Von Kaltwasser (GSD) aka "Ruger" Jasmine (GSD) aka "Jazzy" Rip Delilah (GSD) aka "D" Rip http://fayettevilleschutzhundclub.us/

01-28-2012, 07:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
Danielle609 Master Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cascade, Michigan (GR) Posts: 532	That is sort of my question. Are the solid black pure WGSL or have the had WL mixed into them. I don't know much about genetics or the black gene. But I am intrigued by this for some reason. __________________ " If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then giving Fido only two of them" Starting the search for my next family member! Danielle

01-28-2012, 08:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
LaRen616 Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 10,582	I am about 95% sure there are black WGSL. __________________ ~ Sinister 3 yr old black male GSD 3.11.09 ~ Malice 9 mth old black female GSD 6.19.11 Cats: Chaos, Monster, Wicked

01-28-2012, 10:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
Emoore Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 9,215	Yeah, that's the discussion about the elusive dominant black gene. Black is recessive in GSDs but there are rumors about a line of Show Line dogs out of Eastern Europe that carry a dominant black gene. There's good evidence for it, but I think the person on the thread you're talking about may be about to get scammed. __________________ Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months At the Bridge: Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010

01-28-2012, 10:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
Doc Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,605	There are solid black show dogs. Unfortunately the rave is black and red - has been for years. For some reason (?), solid black show dogs are looked favorably upon. They just don't fit the cookie cutter mentality. Go figure.

01-28-2012, 10:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Danielle609 Master Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cascade, Michigan (GR) Posts: 532	I am going to be honest Emoore, I tried to follow the current thread, but gave up Way over my head! I saw that they had posted that female from Russia...was someone thinking about purchasing it? __________________ " If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then giving Fido only two of them" Starting the search for my next family member! Danielle

01-28-2012, 11:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
Emoore Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 9,215	I think so. __________________ Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months At the Bridge: Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010

01-28-2012, 11:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
Danielle609 Master Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cascade, Michigan (GR) Posts: 532	I am curious to see how that plays out.... I think it has a 30+ page PDB thread written all over it :-) __________________ " If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then giving Fido only two of them" Starting the search for my next family member! Danielle

01-28-2012, 12:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,959	I was at an AKC show years ago and there was a solid black ASL dog, which I'd never seen before or since. Gorgeous dog! I haven't seen a black German showline dog before. __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

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