Variations Timeline

aubie · 06-04-2009, 10:54 AM

This is kinda random, but DH and I were talking about the GSD in general the other night (what else would we be doing??) and he asked the question:

"When the GSD was first bred, was it the standard blk/tan and when did the other variaties such as bicolor, sable, etc come about, or were they there from the get go?"

Anyone have any insight on this? Just wondering. Thanks!

**lhczth** · 06-04-2009, 04:42 PM

The very first GSD in the stud book was a sable, Hektor Linksrhein also known as Horand Grafrath. Actually the first 4 GSD in the stud book were sable. These colors have been around since the beginning.

**Chris Wild** · 06-04-2009, 08:32 PM

Yup, all the colors have been around since the beginning. Though what people tend to consider the "standard black and tan" today didn't start to become popular until the 1950s. They were around before that, but no where near as common as they've become since.

onyx'girl · 06-04-2009, 08:49 PM

Why do we not see many bi-colors? I think they are stunning, and very seldom see one. Do certain lines have them more? I know it comes from what the parent carries, but you'd think there would be more. When I thought Onyx's lineage came from Kirschental, I looked at Karl Fullers kennel history http://www.kirschenbach.de/index.php...d=13&Itemid=26 and lo and behold found one bi-color, Xanta. Then I found out Onyx isn't from this line at all

Her breeder was playing games on pdb...

wolfstraum · 06-07-2009, 09:09 AM

AND - the original Rin Tin Tin was a very very dark sable!!! The 50's TV dog was a very washed out black and silver!

I have had 2 bi colors - one was out of a black Pike Schafbachmuhle daughter and a sable Yoshey Dollenwiese son - the other from Basha and Joanne Flemings Enno Fuchsstein, a Tom son...both sables!

Lee

06-04-2009, 10:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
aubie Crowned Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,992	Variations Timeline This is kinda random, but DH and I were talking about the GSD in general the other night (what else would we be doing??) and he asked the question: "When the GSD was first bred, was it the standard blk/tan and when did the other variaties such as bicolor, sable, etc come about, or were they there from the get go?" Anyone have any insight on this? Just wondering. Thanks! __________________ Anna's Dog Blog Rocks! Tiffany; mom to: Annabelle "the Diva"- GSD born 9/21/08 Duncan- Shep Mix adopted on 2/14/00 TDI The kitty amigos: Simon, Alley and Mia

06-04-2009, 04:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 11,698	Re: Variations Timeline The very first GSD in the stud book was a sable, Hektor Linksrhein also known as Horand Grafrath. Actually the first 4 GSD in the stud book were sable. These colors have been around since the beginning. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

06-04-2009, 08:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Chris Wild Administrator & Alpha Bitch of the Wild Bunch Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 12,604	Re: Variations Timeline Yup, all the colors have been around since the beginning. Though what people tend to consider the "standard black and tan" today didn't start to become popular until the 1950s. They were around before that, but no where near as common as they've become since. __________________ *Wildhaus Kennels* Kaiser ~ SchH3 CGC TDI (HOT) Raven ~ SchH3 AWD2 PD1 P1 PA T1 UCD URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Della ~ SchHA TR1 PD1 P1 PA T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Wulf ~ SchH1 PD1 P1 T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Heidi ~ BH CD UCD RN URO1 (B/HOT) Jazz ~ Superpup In Training

06-04-2009, 08:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 17,605	Re: Variations Timeline Why do we not see many bi-colors? I think they are stunning, and very seldom see one. Do certain lines have them more? I know it comes from what the parent carries, but you'd think there would be more. When I thought Onyx's lineage came from Kirschental, I looked at Karl Fullers kennel history http://www.kirschenbach.de/index.php...d=13&Itemid=26 and lo and behold found one bi-color, Xanta. Then I found out Onyx isn't from this line at all Her breeder was playing games on pdb... __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

06-07-2009, 09:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,089	Re: Variations Timeline AND - the original Rin Tin Tin was a very very dark sable!!! The 50's TV dog was a very washed out black and silver! I have had 2 bi colors - one was out of a black Pike Schafbachmuhle daughter and a sable Yoshey Dollenwiese son - the other from Basha and Joanne Flemings Enno Fuchsstein, a Tom son...both sables! Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

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