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Old 02-26-2014, 07:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm taking my pup to the vet for all his shots tomorrow and was wondering how long I would have to wait before I can take him out around other dogs? Also, when I do take him out I was thinking about just starting with the pet store since most days it's too cold out to take my son out in the cold for too long. how do I go about the socializing process? I know Otto will be a hyper mess in the process! do i just let him do his thing until he calms down???
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This is what I asked my vet. "How am I supposed to socialize him if he hasn't had his shots yet?"
She said to have him be around vaccinated, healthy dogs. And "Don't take him to the pet store, where there could have been rescue dogs incubating Parvo."


What do you mean by "all his shots"? Is he having his last round?
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've been wondering the same. I want to start classes but Zoe hasn't had her third set of shots yet.

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This is what I asked my vet. "How am I supposed to socialize him if he hasn't had his shots yet?"
She said to have him be around vaccinated, healthy dogs. And "Don't take him to the pet store, where there could have been rescue dogs incubating Parvo."


What do you mean by "all his shots"? Is he having his last round?
last round? boo. no i guess not. he hasn't had any shots yethow many rounds do they need and how far apart do they need to be? it's been 6 yearrs since i last had a puppy so I'm a little rusty.
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This is what I go by:

2013 and 2014 Vaccination Protocol
Note: The following vaccine protocol is offered for those dogs where minimal vaccinations are advisable or desirable. The schedule is one Dr. Dodds recommends and should not be interpreted to mean that other protocols recommended by a veterinarian would be less satisfactory. It’s a matter of professional judgment and choice.

9-10 Weeks Old:
Distemper + Parvovirus, MLV (e.g. Merck Nobivac [Intervet Progard] Puppy DPV)

14-16 Weeks:
Same as above

20 Weeks or Older (if allowable by law):
Rabies

1 Year:
Distemper + Parvovirus, MLV (optional = titer)

1 Year:
Rabies, killed 3-year product (give 3-4 weeks apart from distemper/parvovirus booster)

Perform vaccine antibody titers for distemper and parvovirus every three years thereafter, or more often, if desired. Vaccinate for rabies virus according to the law, except where circumstances indicate that a written waiver needs to be obtained from the primary care veterinarian. In that case, a rabies antibody titer can also be performed to accompany the waiver request. See the Rabies Challenge Fund website.

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Old 02-26-2014, 07:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Once my dog had three sets of shots in, I started taking him to a local doggy daycare for a few hours once a week. It's a small private business and they are great and really work and get to know each dog individually. I purposely didn't ask about vaccines when I went the first time to see if she would ask me (kind of a test!). She was very strict about it and looked at each and every vaccine on my records to make sure they were up to date so I felt comfortable assuming the other dogs there are fully vaccinated too.

In the meantime, our new pup goes everywhere in the car that we do...ie - dropping off kids at school, drive-thrus, etc. and we have walked him outside in our neighborhood in the middle of the street (as opposed to sidewalks where other dogs obviously walk and do their business). Sometimes we literally just sit in our driveway together while I give him treats so he can hear other dogs. And our neighbor has a wonderful 7 year old fully vaccinated Australian Shepherd that is a very balanced dog and has played wonderfully with our new pup (to teach him the "doggie" rules). He has been great and I was so proud when my dog sat nicely while neighbor dog did the "sniff" test on their first visit.

I have taken my dog to pet stores for smells and seeing other dogs (no interaction), but I put a towel down in the cart and he rides in their and I carry him into the store...very careful!
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After the 2nd round, I got Dag into training but fully vetted the training center and he was in with older dogs. We took a chance but wanted to start his training as soon as possible. It allowed him some socialization in a controlled environment with dogs we knew the training center had shot records on. Also the training center has a cleaning regimen. You can smell disinfectant before dog.

Other than that, we took him to our non dog owner friends homes, most had small kids. We have kept him away from anywhere we thought other dogs frequented. This includes pet stores, dog parks, and some hiking trails.

It's not worth the risk. Parvo is nasty. I would say socialize with people now, dogs a little later. Try and keep him from having any traumatic experiences as your trying to build his confidence. He will go through a fear period early, then likely another a little later. Ours has definitely been through one and I believe that is over for now. He is 4 months tomorrow. He has been a lot of places with us, lots of car rides. Visited family and friends numerous times both at home and at their houses.

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It's not worth the risk. Parvo is nasty.
yep I was at Petsmart this morning picking up some stuff (without my dog) and saw the cutest little husky that was battling parvo (he was headed to the vet clinic within Petsmart). So sad
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yep I was at Petsmart this morning picking up some stuff (without my dog) and saw the cutest little husky that was battling parvo (he was headed to the vet clinic within Petsmart). So sad
Oh I hope he makes it!
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Dog trainers and behaviorists love pet stores and dog park dogs, that's where most of there business comes from.

Next batch is the early socialization folks, that want to cram people into their dogs faces. Right dog with sound nerves, no problem! Wrong dog same approach...the dog is now scared of (whoever) people or floppy hats or wheel chairs, etc,etc. Wrong dog can become fearful and submissive.

I chose this approach. I protected my dog, he did not have to chose who's good and who is bad or deal with "I though my dog was friendly folks. He learned to view people as and other dogs as furniture, He understand what normal human interaction looks like.

He's safe in public and can be around other dogs without loosing it. He's not a dog park dog. Not worth the hassle for me.

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And here:rethinking "popular" early socialization

No brilliant insight on my part. I had a people aggressive young dog. It was my believe that cramming a bunch of people in his face wasn't the answer? In my case with my dog I was right.

Not saying your planned approach is wrong, just showing their is another approch to having a happy well adjusted dog!
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