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carrieincolorado 02-19-2014 10:24 PM

Trainers and over nights...
 
Hi all,

So my trainer really likes to have Chevelle for over nights.. she feels that is good for all.. she has a LOT of dogs at her place and I know that Chevelle likes going there but the over nights are really hard on her. I picked her up today (she was there 2 days, one night) and it literally took her 20 minutes to calm down enough to be put in my car. The trainers husband stood on the leash so she could not jump and we just waited and treated calm behavior, which lasted a few seconds before she was back to barking/whining/attempting to jump. She is 4 1/2 months old. My question is, are the over nights just too much? She is VERY attached to me, sleeps on my bed, total Velcro pup. I am wondering if we are asking too much of her here.

onyx'girl 02-19-2014 11:05 PM

What is the goal for the trainer to have your dog overnight? I don't understand? Does Chevelle play with the other dogs or are they kenneled/separated?
I personally would not want my puppy away from me ever.

carrieincolorado 02-19-2014 11:49 PM

I would prefer not to have her stay over night also but I have been deferring to her better judgment as she is the professional. She feels Chevelle needs to spend time Away from me in order to get over issues she is having (mainly the jumping.. which was improving until today when I went to get her) she feels Chevelle needs more socialization so she does spend the time with the other dogs (I believe there are at least 13 dogs there all the time) My trainer keeps insisting MORE time there is better and acts weird when I say no, I'm picking her up now. Thoughts?

sourdough44 02-20-2014 02:18 AM

I guess it depends on your goals, what you can do yourself & what level of training expected. The whole 'bonding' experience rates kinda high for me. I'd be unlikely to send a dog off without a GREAT reason.

There may be times when ones has to, some trips etc.. For things like jumping up & basic commands I'd school up & do them yourself. After all, your not looking for a circus dog. JMHO of course.

onyx'girl 02-20-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by carrieincolorado (Post 5053370)
I would prefer not to have her stay over night also but I have been deferring to her better judgment as she is the professional. She feels Chevelle needs to spend time Away from me in order to get over issues she is having (mainly the jumping.. which was improving until today when I went to get her) she feels Chevelle needs more socialization so she does spend the time with the other dogs (I believe there are at least 13 dogs there all the time) My trainer keeps insisting MORE time there is better and acts weird when I say no, I'm picking her up now. Thoughts?

Socializing with other dogs is teaching her what?

Socializing done with you~taking her out and about, seeing the real world and experiencing different surfaces/sounds/scents...that is more informative than playing with a group of dogs.

I agree with sourdough, YOU should be learning how to train her with your trainer, not let the trainer have her for extended periods of time.
Not one person I ever have trained with suggests the dog is better off away from their handler.
If you don't know how to teach Chevelle manners, there are plenty of dvds, books, youtube videos available for help.

Just exactly what is your trainer doing with Chevelle? You should know this to be a better handler.

carrieincolorado 02-20-2014 08:44 AM

I am working on educating myself on training her, have watched Tons of YouTube videos and read many articles so I am getting there! I have trained her to do some tricks and she is in love with treat training and will learn with just her standard kibble as reward. I am making some headway on the nuisance jumping (until I picked her up yesterday)... so I feel that I am not a total loser on the training end of things and I am asking myself the same question.. why is she insisting that over nights are good for Chevelle? She runs a doggy daycare/boarding facility and her constant pitch is The More Time there the better it is for Chevelle. My pup does wait for me in my car while I am working and playing with her group of dogs is more stimulating than that of course.. but I can't wrap my brain around the over night idea..

onyx'girl 02-20-2014 08:51 AM

Is she charging you for these overnights? I'd outright ask her why she thinks staying with her is better than staying with you.

nktigger99 02-20-2014 09:33 AM

Sounds fishy....especially if you are paying for all these over nights.

GSDAlphaMom 02-20-2014 09:45 AM

German shepherds prefer their people to other dogs, they are not golden retrievers. Is she experienced with the breed? It doesn't sound like it. I would not send her there at all. Find some classes that you can attend and train together. As mentioned, get her out in the world for socialization. You can do this! :)

wolfy dog 02-20-2014 12:00 PM

Weirdest trainer advice so far. Who knows what they put her through. The fact that she is wild for so long after she sees you is a red flag to me. When I pick up my dogs from the breeder's boarding kennel, they are happy to see me but in the normal range of "happy".
It reminds me of a situation in the past when I picked up my dog from boarding at a vet's office and he acted like that. Then I found out that he had been crated all that time instead of all the good and social play they promised.
I would never leave my dog at someone elses unless he had to be boarded when I go places where I can't take him.
It sounds like your trainer has too much power over you if you cannot standup against her/him. Trust your gut and stick with that.


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