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Old 12-26-2013, 10:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all. I'm planning to add a Shepherd to our family in January and I've been going nuts with research. I'm not new to having a dog previously I had a Golden for 17 years and a Cocker for 12. The golden passed 3 years ago and the Cocker 8 months ago.

The family is ready for another dog but frankly I'd feel weird having another Golden....feels like replacing Sammy.

GSD's are beautiful and seem extremely smart but I have some questions if some of you have the time.

1- How are GSD's with kids? I understand that every dogs temperament is different and kids need to learn to respect any dog to keep from being bitten but would anyone highly suggest steering clear of a GSD?

2- I have been looking into Breeders and prices are running between $800-$3500. Are there any warning signs to look at when buying? Are the $800 dogs worth looking at? I'm talking to a breeder right now who seems to know his stuff and seems very upfront about the breed but I look at other breeder sites and they call this type a back yard breeder. The man has been way more helpful than I expected and I trust him.

3- Does anyone know of breeders in the NC area to stay away from?

Thanks a ton for any info that can be supplied. Have a great holiday season.


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Old 12-27-2013, 01:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome There is plenty if threads on the forum that can answer all of your questions, or at least most of them, just navigate through the forum and you'll find all you need


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Old 12-27-2013, 01:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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hi -
maybe without mentioning names lets put this breeder who -

quoting OP "I'm talking to a breeder right now who seems to know his stuff and seems very upfront about the breed but I look at other breeder sites and they call this type a back yard breeder. The man has been way more helpful than I expected and I trust him."

and put them through the acid test . Let's see if it is gold .

what are they saying , what is the information.
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Hello Carm.

When I had called the breeder he had started off asking questions about myself and my family. He asked how much room we have for the pup and wanted to know if I was up to working the dog. He said that a GSD is active and needs an outlet.

The breeder offered to show me both parents when the bitch was not feeding...his words. He also stated that he did not like anyone around the pups until the reach a certain age and when I did meet them I would have to wipe down my shoes with bleach and wash up if I was going to handle the dogs.

I specifically asked if he was inbreeding and he stated that he would never inbreed. He did explain line breeding to me and said that is done to retain lines.

The only thing that concerned me is that he has no website. I'm willing to drive out there because an hour drive is no hassle.


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Before you do much more contacting of breeders really make sure you've spent the hours needed on --> How to find a puppy! It's amazing what we don't know and better NOT to learn the hard way.

Generally it seems the better breeders have pups at around $1000 - $1500 to just get a great dog with the better health guarantees for parents and pups PLUS more assurance on temperament that you are looking for. So keep that in mind as a price range. For what you want, paying more would NOT necessarily get you a better dog at all. Much better to save the difference and use it on all the DOG CLASSES that help our GSD pups the first year or so.

If you go thru all the info on the site I posted above so meet the breeder with enough knowledge to ask the right questions and recognize if he's answering correctly or avoiding/blowing you off... then the breeder you are looking at may be fine for you.

So important to TRUST YOUR BREEDER and really know and want to support his breeding program and what his goals are for his dogs. I know that having the support and help from my breeders has been key every time a situation may arise that I'm going 'what??' and we've come thru everything just fine.

It's a definite 'buyer beware' for puppies like anything we buy. So doing our research ahead of time is at least slanting things our way the best we can. Keeping in mind that ANY breeding ends up a bit of a crap shoot with the randomness of the mix of genetics, what I 'know' about the $$$$$ I pay is that it's not really for the puppy I end up with. Instead it's to support the breeding program of the breeder I choose in the hopes they are doing the right thing, the best they can, and their goals are to better the breed in the manner I think is right.
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Hello Carm.

When I had called the breeder he had started off asking questions about myself and my family. He asked how much room we have for the pup and wanted to know if I was up to working the dog. He said that a GSD is active and needs an outlet.

The breeder offered to show me both parents when the bitch was not feeding...his words. He also stated that he did not like anyone around the pups until the reach a certain age and when I did meet them I would have to wipe down my shoes with bleach and wash up if I was going to handle the dogs.

I specifically asked if he was inbreeding and he stated that he would never inbreed. He did explain line breeding to me and said that is done to retain lines.

The only thing that concerned me is that he has no website. I'm willing to drive out there because an hour drive is no hassle.


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Not having a website wouldn't be that big of a concern to me, there are a lot of hidden gem breeders out there that simply don't need to advertise. I got my puppy from what I consider a fairly reputable breeder and I couldn't visit until the pups were 3 weeks of age. One thing that really helped me with my decision was to ask for references, what other owners are doing with their dogs aside from the normal questions to ask your breeder.
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GSD is a sickly breed and it is a trouble to get a puppy matching description of the breed in Wikipedia. Health is a problem number one, mental health is a problem number two. I wouldn't trust any breeder, whose dogs weren't evaluated at the dog show (it requires independent medical checks) and have no marks at Schutzhund competition. Both are terribly important. GSD was called a "plasticine dog": every GSD has a potential for being agressive, to be a companion of a social worker, to be a sports dog in Schutz competition or Agility, there is nothing what GSD cannot do provided you train your dog in certain direction from the very first day you get him. But, here lurks the main trouble having GSD - his training must be continuous, it takes time, and you simply cannot leave your dog without training. Vertually, plasticine dog - is time consuming dog. If you are not sure you and your spouse can devote 3-4 hours a day to your dog for the next three years - it will be better to think about some other breed which doesn't require prolonged intensive training. The difference between GSD and Golden is that between a rocket and the balloon.
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