Hi all -
A few days ago we adopted Warden (6 months old) and yesterday and today he's had terrible diarrhea. He gets us up 3x a night for it. Unfortunately there are so many things that could have caused it I'm not sure which to address.
1.) yesterday he went to the vets for his bordatella shot and a lepto boost. In addition to the shots the vets have him tons of treats since he's a little fearful
2.) his last owners weren't able to exercise him much so we have been taking him out a lot and walking, playing, meeting people. Could the increase in exercise and maybe stress contribute to this?
3.) He was being fed beneful puppy and I want him off it ASAP. Our feed store gave me tons of free samples and I mixed in a little bit of a salmon based food for him at lunch and dinner yesterday. Since the diarrhea started I've not added anything to his food since I thought maybe that was it, but today no change.
Was thinking of grabbing some canned pumpkin tomorrow to add to his food because he seems a bit lethargic too and I want him to get well soon. Is there anything else I should do? More rest, etc?
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did the vet do a fecal test on him??
All of the above could certainly contribute to diarhea..
I guess first, tho the food is lousy, I wouldn't switch him just yet. Exercise can cause some stress sometimes, is he drinking alot of water?
He can also become dehydrated from excessive diarhea..
What I would do, have a fecal run, and I'd fast him for 24 hours, OR if you are going to feed him, try some boiled chicken / brown rice, and yes the canned pumpkin..
I don't like to give my dogs anything like Immodium AD (tho some suggest) only because if they have 'something', I want them to rid their system of it ..
Lepto shots are notorious for making dogs sick..not sure if it would be just diarhea tho...
The tons of treats could have upset his gut as well..I'd start with a fecal..Hope he feels better soon, he is a handsome dude:)
Your vet gave the pup a lepto when he was already sick with diarrhea?
Sorry, I'm not judging you at all. You followed what the vet told you to do. It just amazes me that vets give shots when clearly the dog is not well!:mad:
Get some canned pumpkin (NO spices) from the grocery store. Some digestive enzymes, pro-biotics: Digest All Plus - The Wholistic Pet. The herb Slippery Elm (from a local health food store) will calm his little tummy.
As for the food, giving different samples will make the situation worse. Get one food and stick with it. A good quality food that you can get at Petsmart is called Nature's VARIETY (not Natures Recipe) Non-grain such as Wild Prairie, Grasslands, Pacifica or Ranchlands.
Wean him on to this slowly from the Beneful.
Hope this helps the little fella.
Not trying to scare you here, just info for your consideration.
Dr. Karen Becker: “There is a vaccine for leptospirosis, but I do not recommend it. It is a relatively weak bacterial vaccine with marginal staying power and it cannot protect against all 20 or more leptospira serovars. The vaccine carries a significant risk of adverse reactions, especially in small dogs. Information is also emerging that the lepto vaccine can actually cause the disease in dogs, and can bring on kidney failure in older dogs.”
Dr Patricia Jordan is a vet who has done a great deal of research into the vaccine issue. She added these comments: "Kidney failure is a common sequel to vaccination. The basement membrane is susceptible to damage from a clogging that results as the immune complexes are drained via the lymphatics. The kidney is a big part of the lymphatic system. The body tries to clear the toxins in the vaccines and there is damage done in this clearing mechanism.
"Lepto is a very adverse event associated vaccine and the damndest thing is that lepto vaccines simply do not work. Dr Ron Schultz (the world's foremost independent authority on canine vaccines) hates to see them in with anything else and, in puppies, advises that they are completely finished with the viral inoculations before getting a vaccine against Lepto, which he neither recommends nor advocates - even in Lepto endemic areas.
"I have seen older dogs go into kidney failure within two days of receiving a Lepto vaccine."
Vaccines can also cause the disease you're attempting to prevent. In the Canine Health Concern vaccine survey, 100% of dogs with leptospirosis contracted it just after being vaccinated against it. Leptospirosis, of course, attacks the kidneys - and the puppy had severe kidney damage. http://www.dogsadverserea...cines/vaccineDamage.html
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Mom, I could be wrong, but I was thinking he got diarhea 'after' the vet visit??
That was the way I read it but maybe not.
"A few days ago we adopted Warden (6 months old) and yesterday and today he's had terrible diarrhea.(before or after vet????) He gets us up 3x a night for it. Unfortunately there are so many things that could have caused it I'm not sure which to address."
He got diarrhea after the vet, it stated in the middle of last night
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I agree with a 24 hr fast....that should calm his intestines down...I am not surprised he has diarrhea....with all he has been through the past few days...stress...vaccines...increased activity....food changes....they can each individually cause diarrhea....he has had all of that....I like giving green tripe to fix diarrhea...but if that is not available to you immediately....go with canned pumpkin....and I am sure you know not the pie filling kind already....get rid of any crap kibble and just start him on what ever diet you are going to give....but start with the pumpkin and maybe cooked ground chicken...once stools are firm....switch very very slowly to his permanent diet.
Hi all thanks for the help! I'll try the fast and the pumpkin/chicken. Hope he feels better soon, we love our boy and it's hard not to worry about him :(
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He might have the trots due to the treats at the Vet. It takes surprisingly little to upset a GSD's gastrointestinal tract.
Keep him away from cream cheese. Don't ask how I know that.
6 CC's of Pepto-Bismol and then see how that does after six hours. If no improvement, another 6 CC's and then wait again.
Pepto-Bismol has worked wonders in my last three GSD's and it's (my) Vet approved. My ex SIL is a veterinarian and she also approves for puppies over four months at a lower dosage.
Imodium is too much of a stopper upper, but the Pepto is gentler and will still allow a normal poop while curtailing the trots.
I know it's a long shot. But we had the same issue with Olivia. After thinking about it, do you think it might be separation anxiety? Olivia was fine the first night after we adopted, but night two was a whole different story. Same issue as you mentioned, watery, loose, runny stool.
After it passes, boiled chicken and rice for a few days to allow the stomach to recover. Then as others mentioned, a good high quality food is where to start.
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