This is my very first post, so please direct me if this is not the correct area for this question. We just brought home a new German Shepherd puppy. I'm looking at her vaccine records..She has received 3 doses of Neopar at 5, 8, & 11 weeks. she also received a DLPP vaccine at seven weeks. I plan on taking her to the vet Monday or Tuesday, so figure out how many more shots she needs to complete her puppy series. I'm really really paranoid about parvo.. but the way I understand it, she has had four parvo vaccines at age 12 weeks?? does that sound right??
At my vet hospital we always start vac between 6 and 8 weeks depending on when the client gets and brings the pup in. They would typically get 3 to 4 depending on how early they start. We would vaccinate out until 16 wks of age and at the last 2 visits we would add leptospirosis vaccine to the dhppc portion. Leptospirosis is a bacteria spread through infected wildlife urine and can target their liver and kidney function and it is also contagious to people. We would typically give Bordetella aka kennel cough vaccine at 12 wks and we personally wait until the 16 wk visit to give the rabies vaccination. Some breeders, rescues etc like to make up different vaccine protocols so it's isn't unusual for them to get that many. Your pup likely needs two more sets of vaccinations.
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Vaccine protocol is a very touchy subject with some vets as they are not keeping up on current research, so below is the protocol from Dr. Jean Dodds who, along with Dr. Ron Schultz are the researchers and authorities on the subject of vaccines. Your breeder chose to vaccinate at a very young age.
2012 Dr. Jean Dodds protocol
Canine Vaccination Protocol
Vaccination #1: at 9 - 10 Weeks Old: *Distemper + Parvovirus, MLV (e.g. Intervet Progard Puppy DPV, now renamed Nobivac DPV, when Merck and Intervet merged)
Vaccination #2: at 14 Weeks Old: Same as above
Vaccination #3: at 16 - 18 Weeks Old (optional):Same as above (Note optional)
20 weeks or older, if allowable by law:Rabies
1 Year Old Distemper + Parvovirus,MLV (optional = titer first)
1+ Years Old:*Rabies, killed 3-year product (give 3-4 weeks apart from distemper/parvovirus booster)Perform vaccine antibody titers for distemper and parvovirus every three years thereafter, or more often, if desired. Vaccinate for rabies virus according to the law, except where circumstances indicate that a written waiver needs to be obtained from the primary care veterinarian. *In that case, a rabies antibody titer can also be performed to accompany the waiver request. *
You really need to research the adverse effects of the Lepto vaccination and then decide for yourself. The following are quotes from prominent vets and the AAHA.
"Lepto is a very adverse event associated vaccine and the damndest thing is that lepto vaccines simply do not work. Dr Ron Schultz (the world's foremost independent authority on canine vaccines) hates to see them in with anything else and, in puppies, advises that they are completely finished with the viral inoculations before getting a vaccine against Lepto, which he neither recommends nor advocates - even in Lepto endemic areas.
"I have seen older dogs go into kidney failure within two days of receiving a Lepto vaccine."
Dr. Karen Becker: “There is a vaccine for leptospirosis, but I do not recommend it. It is a relatively weak bacterial vaccine with marginal staying power and it cannot protect against all 20 or more leptospira serovars. The vaccine carries a significant risk of adverse reactions, especially in small dogs. Information is also emerging that the lepto vaccine can actually cause the disease in dogs, and can bring on kidney failure in older dogs.”
“The American Animal Hospital Association considers leptospirosis vaccine a “non-core” vaccine for dogs. That is, they do not recommend pets receive it unless there is a good chance they will be exposed to leptospirosis. The main reason for this is that veterinarians see more vaccination reactions following the administration of vaccines containing leptospirosis than any other vaccines. These reactions range from the minor inconveniences of pain at injection site, facial swelling and hives to a fatal anaphylactic reaction. Which pet will experience them cannot be predicted.”
Here are additional articles on Lepto:
Vaccine Articles and News | Dogs Naturally Magazine
Dr. Patricia Jordan DVM: SMOKE AND MIRRORS | Dogs Naturally Magazine
http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/2012/May2012.pd the article begins on Page 28
Taking The Risk Out Of Puppy Shots by Dogs Naturally on July 12, 2011 Taking The Risk Out Of Puppy Shots | Dogs Naturally Magazine
Protecting Your Puppy From Disease: Protecting Your Puppy From Disease | Dogs Naturally Magazine
Bordatella Vaccinations: Bordetella Vaccination for Dogs: Fraud and Fallacy | Dogs Naturally Magazine
Read what Veterinarian’s WISH they knew about vaccinations BEFORE they started administering them!
Vets On Vaccines: Vets On Vaccines | Dogs Naturally Magazine
Go to this site and listen to all 4 parts of vaccination information by Dr. Ron Schultz and Dr. Karen Becker: The Truth About Pet Vaccinations | Part 1
Top Natural Holistic Dog Health Care Book: Multiple Award Winner
Don't be afraid to say "NO thanks, I'll get back to you on that shot" to your vet if you decide against this vaccination and others. This is YOUR puppy....not his.
Don't forget to post some pictures of your little Fur Baby!
speak with your Vet about vaccines and your concerns. i trust my
Vet (s) so i follow their advice.
It's very much a personal decision. Do your research and discuss with your Vet.
I have been with my Vet for 28 years now. I do respect him but his views on vaccinating are very different from mine. I choose to not over vaccinate but instead follow Dr. Jean Dodd's protocol. My Vet does respect my decision to do so. Dr. Dodd is very receptive to emails and responds quickly.
Who gave all these vaccines? It looks like he was vaccinated at 5, 7, 8 and 11 weeks? It should have been 8, 12, 16 weeks. Definitely talk to your vet on what exactly he was given and how to continue from here.
that is what the vaccination record I got from the breeder said. I thought it sounded like a lot but I haven't had a puppy since childhood.
Also talk to your vet about local laws. The state I live in requires Rabies at 3 months.
How come vets at least the ones I have gone too do not do just a distemper/parvovirus vaccine? It's always with lepto in it. I will not be vaccinating my dogs for lepto. Just distemper and parvo from now on. They always tell me their vaccines are 4 in 1 or 5 in one
Another thing is that most conventional vets will vaccinate a dog when he has severe itching or even has hot spots! The box CLEARLY says NOT to give it to a dog with any illness or issues! I'd call itching a HUGE issue which most likely was caused by too many VACCINATIONS! :cry: :eek: :cry:
Be prepared, he will fight you on this matter!
CORE VACCINATIONS PER DR. DODDS:
Parvo, Distemper, Adenovirus & Rabies
Hope this helps!
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