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RPN 01-06-2013 02:42 PM

Puppy with baby??
 
Please don't slate me.. I want a Staff (SBT) but the gf wants a GSD as shes grew up with 1, but men never win with women!! I had a GSD when I was younger too but we have a 4 month old baby, what will a puppy be like with havin the baby??

GsdLoverr729 01-06-2013 02:49 PM

Honestly, I personally think you guys should wait. GSDs go through a landshark phase, and they are a LOT of work in general. Of course all puppies are, but GSDs especially. A puppy and a 4 month old baby really just isn't a good idea. It's a lot of work to have one or the other, both requires a very skilled person. It also requires a lot of money. Kids/babies are EXPENSIVE. And so are puppies (what with shots, the cost of buying the actual pup, food, dewormings, any sickness, etc).
I believe we have another member who loves pit bulls, and she could probably tell you more about SBTs than me (they are far more similar to pits than GSDs).

If you decide to get a GSD, TAKE YOUR TIME. Do your research on the lines, their temperaments, pros/cons, training, proper diets, etc. Find a reputable breeder (members here can point you in the right direction). Put down a deposit, and wait for the breeder to have a puppy that will fit in with your family.
Also- Make sure it's what you BOTH want. Any negative feelings towards the pup for not being your chosen breed can have an effect.

huntergreen 01-06-2013 03:10 PM

if your wife is home with a baby(newborn) and a puppy while you are working, i can assure you, you have concocted a recipe for disaster on so many levels.

BroncoK 01-06-2013 03:22 PM

I disagree.

I think a person who has done their homework, knows how to handle a dog/puppy, that you guys will do just fine. We brought home our first GSD after waiting for a year, when our son was four months old. Both son and dog sleep a lot, so you will have time to bond with your boy, as well as the pup at different times of the day.

You recognize the signs of your pup being obnoxious with your baby and you know when and how to correct it then your baby son and your dog will have a fun relationship growing up together! I do stay at home with my children, and so far it has been a blast. Both dog and boy are about to turn two!! And Bronco LOVES my son and will sleep with him, and play with him, and lets him crawl all over her in a very loving gentle way....yes...she will take his food...BUT my son LOVES to give her food lol and it's MY job to help set the boundaries.

I think though, that it would be wise with all the information you get to take an honest look at what life will be like. There will be challenges (German Shepherds are a lot of work), and victories, but for those who say it's a disaster waiting to happen, I will speak for those, it can be done ;D!!

RPN 01-06-2013 03:36 PM

Don't worry were not just going to go out tomorrow and buy a pup I'll research them 1st and sort out insurance etc, Ill research breeders but make sure kc reg and have papers :)

OffgridAlex 01-06-2013 03:42 PM

In terms of safety I don't think you need to worry, get a dog crate, keep the pup in it when you can't watch him, keep him on a lead when he is out of it. When my pup is in a room with my kids he is either attached to me on a lead or tethered to a piece of furniture. You don't leave a 4 month baby unattended outside of the cot and you don't leave a puppy unattended outside of it's crate so there should never be an issue. Your dog can learn to love your baby from a distance until the baby is big enough to cope with a clumsy pup.

That said - knowing how much work a baby is I would have to warn that we have found a puppy just as hard work initially.

My youngest sons are 1 and 3 and we still have moments tearing our hair out trying to cope with them all at times. Like like suddenly the eldest falls over and hurts himself at the same time the youngest finds your cup of coffee and starts trying to pull it off the table and at that moment the puppy decides to poo on the carpet and roll it it while barking manically. :crazy::crazy::crazy:

I wouldn't have wanted to do puppy training with the kids any younger but I don't think it would be impossible if you are calm, confident capable people. If you are honestly finding the baby a breeze so far then you might be able to cope, personally at 4 months old with our first there were times I wanted to walk out the door and never come back.

The other thing to think about is wanted to enjoy the experience. There are times when I feel I am missing out on seeing the puppy grow because I am so busy with family and times when I feel like the puppy takes my time and I miss seeing my kids grow up.

GsdLoverr729 01-06-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RPN (Post 2685113)
Don't worry were not just going to go out tomorrow and buy a pup I'll research them 1st and sort out insurance etc, Ill research breeders but make sure kc reg and have papers :)

Having papers on puppies does NOT make a breeder reputable. AKC can tell you the pup is purebred, as can UKC (I think), and the Canadian Kennel Club. CKC (Continental Kennel Club) will register anything that resembles purebred, and also mixes. So the first three are the ones which mean purebred.
After this, you need to check that the breeder isn't breeding constantly. They should be health testing their dogs (DM, OFA, PennHip). There should be temperament tests from unbias third parties who can attest to their temperaments. Most reputable breeders also title their dogs, be it in SchH, herding, conformation showing, obedience, etc.
I have been researching/looking for my next shepherd for well over a year. (:

Also, a puppy from a reputable breeder can cost anywhere from $1200-4500 depending on the bloodline (working, show, German, American, Czech, etc). Each bloodline has slightly different things to offer, so you need to figure out which is best suited for your family and what you want to do with the dog.

Capone22 01-06-2013 04:16 PM

I have a 7 month old baby and a 6 month old puppy. It's A LOT of work. Exhausting at times. A lot of management, especially until the baby teeth fall out. But it was my decision to get a puppy and a working puppy at that. So I knew what I was in for (kind of.) it's definitely do-able IF your wife is 100% on board, if she is actively involved in training classes and working with the puppy each day on top of taking care of kids. And also, can't forget potty training and exercising. They need a lot of exercise as they grow. Good luck.


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RPN 01-08-2013 12:43 PM

Hi people, after reading into them more, I've decided to buy the gf 1 but sat her down made sure shes ready and will look after it :) are papers important aswell as kc reg? Just come across gorgeous pups but no papers?

GsdLoverr729 01-08-2013 12:54 PM

If you want the best chance at a pup with stable temperament, good nerves, and health you need to go to a reputable breeder. So papers would be offered, though on limited registration (more likely than not since it's just a pet home).
Not all "kc" papers are equal. CKC (Continental kennel club) registers anything that even resembles the breed, and they also register mixed breeds. They are not reputable and are generally a backyard bred registery. UKC, AKC, Canadian Kennel Club, SV, etc are all registries that let you know the dog IS purebred.

Not all dogs with papers are from good breeders, though. The papers just give you insight in the pedigree and let you know it's not a mix. I really think you need to SLOW DOWN and do your research. Take your time, and learn a bit before jumping into it. Here are some articles for you to read through to begin.

(Types of German Shepherds, by Wildhaus Kennels )
(German Shepherd Breeders, by Wildhaus Kennels)
(Elements of Temperament, by Joy Tiz )
(Raising Puppies, by Wildhaus Kennels )


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