New puppy has Coccidia

MN GSD Fan · 12-27-2012, 07:12 PM

So our new puppy that we have had for two weeks has Coccidia. Poor guy was up all night and I couldn't figure out why because he has been sleeping so good in the crate at night. Then this morning he had diarrhea, was puking a little, and was constantly whining and restless so we took him to the vet. $200 later we got him back under control and at home and he seems to be feeling a little better. Is this a bill you think the breeder should cover or even help with after only 2 weeks or is it a common thing in puppies? He was an expensive puppy and has excellent hips/elbows, but I worry about other health issues now. Any thoughts?

UnlimitedGSD · 12-27-2012, 08:06 PM

do you have a contract with the breeder and what does it say?
unless the puppy has been x-rayed (and it's old enough to be x-rayed) you have no idea how his hips/elbows are...

**Andaka** · 12-27-2012, 08:24 PM

Coccidia is common in puppies, and often waits to present itself after the pup goes to its new home.

MN GSD Fan · 12-27-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UnlimitedGSD

do you have a contract with the breeder and what does it say?
unless the puppy has been x-rayed (and it's old enough to be x-rayed) you have no idea how his hips/elbows are...

Yes we do have a contract. I just got home so we'll get it out of the safe and read what it says in regards to this. Sorry what I meant was that both parents had excellent hips/elbows rather than the puppy.

MN GSD Fan · 12-27-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Andaka

Coccidia is common in puppies, and often waits to present itself after the pup goes to its new home.

Yeah thats what we had read too, but our vet said no reputable breeder would ever have puppies with this? As you mention it seems common, but the vet acted like it was something that should never happen?

Doc · 12-27-2012, 09:25 PM

Coccidia is very common in puppies. Treat with Albon and it is easily eliminated. The bet charging $200.00 bucks to detect Coccidia is highway robbery. It is a simple fecal test and the symptoms, especially in pups, is a clear indication. Stress weakens the immune system and triggers the organisms. The pup could of picked up the Coccidia in your own yard or any place it has been.

robinhuerta · 12-28-2012, 10:46 AM

Your vet is COMPLETELY wrong.....
Coccidia is a *common* micro organism that can be present in ANY dog or puppy.
The difference is......in puppies, ..it is more noticable because puppies tend to fall "physically ill" when it presents itself.
ANY breeder, ANY owner can have a puppy present with Coccidia (especially after a stressful situation).

*I hate when vets make ignorant comments.*

MN GSD Fan · 12-28-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by robinhuerta

Your vet is COMPLETELY wrong.....
Coccidia is a *common* micro organism that can be present in ANY dog or puppy.
The difference is......in puppies, ..it is more noticable because puppies tend to fall "physically ill" when it presents itself.
ANY breeder, ANY owner can have a puppy present with Coccidia (especially after a stressful situation).

*I hate when vets make ignorant comments.*

Good to know...as I mentioned I was under the same impression, but after the vet said that I was a little nervous. He seems to be doing much better today already based on how many times I got my arm chewed on so hopefully he'll be alright.

BlackthornGSD · 12-28-2012, 11:25 AM

If the puppy was fine for the first 2 weeks home, it's more likely that the puppy picked up something in the last week.

Coccidia is very widespread and extremely difficult to eradicate. A good breeder knows it may be a problem and takes steps to minimize the problems the puppy and new owner will face. However, if this was a problem that came from the breeder's place, then you would have had problems the first few days home.

This past year seems to have been a really bad one for coccidia and giardia in many areas of the US--perhaps because of the very mild winter last year?

The medicines to treat coccidia are very inexpensive--it's the surrounding testing that can add up the $$.

Kejasa · 12-29-2012, 02:53 PM

I've always heard coccidia takes about two weeks after exposure to present with symptoms. You are right around the cut off, so the pup could have come with it or could have picked it up right when it got home. My hunch would be that the pup came with it. As everyone else said, coccidia is common and fairly easy to treat.

12-27-2012, 07:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
MN GSD Fan Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 117	New puppy has Coccidia So our new puppy that we have had for two weeks has Coccidia. Poor guy was up all night and I couldn't figure out why because he has been sleeping so good in the crate at night. Then this morning he had diarrhea, was puking a little, and was constantly whining and restless so we took him to the vet. $200 later we got him back under control and at home and he seems to be feeling a little better. Is this a bill you think the breeder should cover or even help with after only 2 weeks or is it a common thing in puppies? He was an expensive puppy and has excellent hips/elbows, but I worry about other health issues now. Any thoughts?

12-27-2012, 08:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
UnlimitedGSD Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Oxford Mills, Ontario Posts: 35	do you have a contract with the breeder and what does it say? unless the puppy has been x-rayed (and it's old enough to be x-rayed) you have no idea how his hips/elbows are... __________________ Lee Hanrahan unlimitedGSD

12-27-2012, 08:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Andaka "I like Daffy" Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis) Posts: 2,921	Coccidia is common in puppies, and often waits to present itself after the pup goes to its new home. __________________ Daphne and the Gang at Andaka Where Beauty and Brains Come Together http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/sear...n_shepherd_dog Home of Ch Natty; Ch Doll; Jag CDX GN RE (ch ptd); Sara RN (ch ptd); and Ch. Fisher (Mr. Evil) At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Red the Dachshund

12-28-2012, 10:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
robinhuerta Crowned Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,512	Your vet is COMPLETELY wrong..... Coccidia is a common micro organism that can be present in ANY dog or puppy. The difference is......in puppies, ..it is more noticable because puppies tend to fall "physically ill" when it presents itself. ANY breeder, ANY owner can have a puppy present with Coccidia (especially after a stressful situation). I hate when vets make ignorant comments. __________________ Huerta Hof German Shepherds www.teamhuertahof.com ....where breeding is still considered an art....

12-28-2012, 11:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
BlackthornGSD Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 1,426	If the puppy was fine for the first 2 weeks home, it's more likely that the puppy picked up something in the last week. Coccidia is very widespread and extremely difficult to eradicate. A good breeder knows it may be a problem and takes steps to minimize the problems the puppy and new owner will face. However, if this was a problem that came from the breeder's place, then you would have had problems the first few days home. This past year seems to have been a really bad one for coccidia and giardia in many areas of the US--perhaps because of the very mild winter last year? The medicines to treat coccidia are very inexpensive--it's the surrounding testing that can add up the $$. __________________ Christine Blackthorn Working German Shepherds

12-27-2012, 09:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Doc Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,775	Coccidia is very common in puppies. Treat with Albon and it is easily eliminated. The bet charging $200.00 bucks to detect Coccidia is highway robbery. It is a simple fecal test and the symptoms, especially in pups, is a clear indication. Stress weakens the immune system and triggers the organisms. The pup could of picked up the Coccidia in your own yard or any place it has been.

12-29-2012, 02:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kejasa Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 33	I've always heard coccidia takes about two weeks after exposure to present with symptoms. You are right around the cut off, so the pup could have come with it or could have picked it up right when it got home. My hunch would be that the pup came with it. As everyone else said, coccidia is common and fairly easy to treat.

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