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Rogue update (Picture heavy!)

It's been a little while since I have updated on Rogue. She is doing well, growing and full of energy and spunk! She is a handful!! She is still very small, and having loose stool issues. We aren't sure why yet, looking into SIBO now. Renal Dysplasia has ben ruled out, So if anyone has any other ideas as to why she is SO small please let me know. She is 5 months on the 26th and is now 22 pounds and about 16 inches now. (Measuring her is NOT easy ) She is at a healthy weight for her body though, I will show it in the pictures. She is doing really well with training, she is SO smart. We are hopefully doing some french ring, and I am working with a local club, which is a lot of fun! So anyways here are pictures from the past week. Enjoy
Showing her shape- good weight for her body.

Being a good girl on Thanksgiving-

OMG she DOES lay down and rest

Good size difference comparison, she is next to a 50-55 pound rottie mix/mutt

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Nice morning walk with my family (That is my husband/son and daughter)




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She is small because good things come in small packages - dontcha know? LOL

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Being only 4'10 I DO know LOL
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Tee hee ... she's a beauty though! You might have better luck with her being small (and black) with people being less afraid of her ...

I know when Ky was a puppy everyone wanted to see her ... not so much as she grew up! I do get LOADS of comments on how stunning she is, but only the real dog savvy people will approach ... ok, I'm lying, I get loads of idiots, but I steer them away right quick!

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I have a friend who has a two year old Female Mal that is 47 lbs. she is the absolute most fun to watch on the Schutzhund field. I call her the buzz saw!
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I have a friend who has a two year old Female Mal that is 47 lbs. she is the absolute most fun to watch on the Schutzhund field. I call her the buzz saw!
But mals are much smaller than gsds! Rafi only weighs 58 pounds!

I would guess that Rogue will be well under 50 pounds at her full weight. And I would also guess that her size has everything to do with her (in)breeding.

SIBO is a good next guess. What are you feeding now? Have you tried something like Perfect Form by Honest Kitchen to film things up? That did wonders for Rafi (he is still on a low dose).

She looks totally proportionate. She clearly loves life and looks very smart and engaged!

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SIBO would cause weight loss, and/or lack of weight gain, by definition. The 1st clue our dog had SIBO was he lost 10lb. in 3 weeks.
I mean it melted off him- and his bloodwork showed his body was metabolizing itself as he was starving although he was eating.

SIBO - EPI * Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency

I'm not saying it's not worth it to try but...her body weight looks really good for potential SIBO...

What are you feeding and how much/how often?

We had a Great Dane come in that was on a good food for that breed and all, but the key was to feed him more often and smaller meals and he stopped having diarrhea and gained weight. Wasn't a medically treatable condition but more his body's way of metabolizing the food I guess. It took getting him into a home where she could feed him multiple meals, although he gained here, it was slower than when he got in his own home and could eat more frequently.
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Well she has been on a couple different medications, and yah she is gaining well now. For a while, if she wasn't on medication she would get diarrhea that would get worse very quickly and she would drop all of her weight, like from 11 pounds to 7 suddenly, and get dehydrated. But that hasn't happened since her last round of antibiotics. I give her pumpkin and yogurt as of last week with her meals and it has helped some also. She is on Natures Domain Fish. She was one Natures variety raw instinct, and then honest kitchen. But that was when she was having the bad diarrhea and the vet asked me to change it to something with more fat to try and keep some weight on her. So I did. I still have a lot of honest kitchen left. I can mix it. but since shes doing ok on this food I haven't messed with it. Aside from the pumpkin and yogurt.

Last time she had blood work it showed protein levels a bit low, which the vet said made sense because of the diarrhea and that she wasn't keeping the nutrients. I need to get her blood work re done and make sure it went up. Seems like it has, because she is gaining and putting on a little muscle now.

I guess I was just really concerned that the small size was part of a larger problem, but if her poops are better with what I am feeding and she's healthy and active I should just leave it all alone.
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But mals are much smaller than gsds! Rafi only weighs 58 pounds!

I would guess that Rogue will be well under 50 pounds at her full weight. And I would also guess that her size has everything to do with her (in)breeding.

SIBO is a good next guess. What are you feeding now? Have you tried something like Perfect Form by Honest Kitchen to film things up? That did wonders for Rafi (he is still on a low dose).

She looks totally proportionate. She clearly loves life and looks very smart and engaged!
I havent tried that yet, but I can order it.
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Have you added Salmon oil to her diet? If not the Grizzly (squirt on) kind then a capsule?
You may want to try that. Some say coconut oil is good for a healthy source of fat, as well.

I don't know...she looks good other than she's small, and she's just going to be small, I think. You'll have to watch a few things - the overall picture (which, right now she looks great and proportionate), and her activity levels, a SIBO dog is sick and looks and acts sick because they feel sick.

Go ahead and read through that SIBO/EPI info site, for a full understanding of how those things appear and work - a small dog is a small dog - a dog dying of malnutrition despite a good diet, because it has SIBO, is pretty unmistakable.
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