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When to stop using the clicker?

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I know that the clicker is used to teach a new behaviour and say "yes, what you've done is correct", however when the puppy masters the trick, when can I stop using the clicker for that particular trick?


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You wean the clicker and treats as soon as the dog masters the behavior on cue. Then you gradually replace the clicker and treats with praise or play. If you use treats too long they will become dependent on them in order to obey you.
Read this book: "Don't Shoot the Dog" from Karen Pryor, it is a must have for clicker training.
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You wean the clicker and treats as soon as the dog masters the behavior on cue. Then you gradually replace the clicker and treats with praise or play.
I usually start pairing praise (pets or verbal) with the treats right away to make the transition to praise easier.

I only use the clicker up to the point that the behavior is on cue and the dog is performing it 9 times out of 10 reliably. I then start with random food reward paired with praise. As time goes on the random reward is further and further apart.

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I know, what I want to do is gradually decrease the amounts of treats -
make him do a few commands rather than 1 each, then more commands, then gradually remove the treat...
a border collie likes to play, so why not?
So basically remove the clicker as soon as the dog masters the trick. right?
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I didn't see your post there gsdraven, it must have not updated.
Okay, well what about -
How long should the break be from learning one trick to another?
Eg. If the dog mastered one trick, when can I start training the new one?


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You don't have to train anything sequentially, when I have a new puppy I'm working on a whole of things at once. I may only do a few repetitions of each since puppies have a very short attention span, or I might work on just 2 or 3 different things in each short training session, but I don't wait until one thing is mastered before beginning another.

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I once had an Aussie foster pup, 7 - 8 weeks old and straight from the pound. I taught her the basics with the clicker in two days, so several behaviors spread out throughout the day. She had the down stay mastered in ten minutes.
One time I was calling her and calling her and couldn't see her. There she was, sitting at my feet, looking up to me; she was already there.
WD is not that way; he has an agenda of his own, which I love by the way. He would never be a slave.
With him I could never gotten him where he is today with just the clicker. He also needed to be reprimanded in his sharky stage.
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