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Old 12-22-2008, 10:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default "shiloh" and "king" shepherds

First off, I want to say sorry if this is not a topic that should be discussed and mods should delete it if they want!

I had an encounter a long while back. She had a dog and I decided to make a comment on how nice looking he was. My words:
"He's a beautiful boy. Is he a German shepherd mix?".
Well, the lady promptly replies: "No, he's a purebred Shiloh Shepherd".
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Not sure how everyone thinks about "shiloh" and "king" shepherds, but while I know they make great pets and are gorgeous dogs, but I just don't like them. Yes, they are not "designers", and yes, they have standards, but I sort of think people are advertising them by using the German shepherd reputation while they are completely different in just about every aspect except for looks.

'Course I'm no expert at all, and I'm an uber opinionated person, so...
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Someone on here does have a Shiloh, although I can't remember who it is.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I personally think they are beautiful, I know of a local breeder and she corrects people(at our training facility) if they think hers is a gsd-in a good way, not condenscending or anything. More like trying to educate on the difference. She is not fond of Tina Barber(developer of the Shiloh), btw, but I only know this, because we were talking about the origins. Her female is smaller boned and shorter than Onyx, so you wouldn't even know she is a Shiloh. She is a beauty, but was a bit unfocused in our CGC class. May have had to do with her age. This is the website: http://www.lakewayshilohs.com/
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I absolutely agree that both the Shiloh and King shepherds are gorgeous dogs, and I think that I am more annoyed with the breeders that advertise these dogs as the loyal German shepherd you knew as a kid, only bigger and fluffier! And trust me, I have seen too many of those people who would say that. I have met a few Shilohs, and they are very sweet tempered and friendly. Not sure if that's how they all are, but they seem very different from the German shepherd behavior wise.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think the Shiloh Shepherds are pretty. When I was a kid I wanted one. The King Shepherds seem more gimmicky to me but maybe that's because when I first learned about them they were just being "created" so it was a new breed.
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If people is going to breed whatever they want and not under the GSD standard, then I'm more than happy they call their dog Shilohs or Kings or whatever and not try to make people to believe that those over-sized coated dogs are what "they should look and what they used to look on the past".

If I like them or not... it's not my business nor I know any in person, I don't like any breed developed as a pet only anyway. But if someone wants to breed a Pet GSD instead of the working breed it used to be, I encourage them to do it under a different name.
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Quote:Shiloh Shepherds were created in upstate NY in an attempt to bring back the old style flock- guardian German Shepherd Dogs.
What is the old style flock guardian German shepherd dog?......
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My great uncle has a Shiloh - gorgeous dog, and wonderfully tempered to boot. They love her, but I haven't interacted with her enough to have much of an opinion on them. I actually live very close to Tina Barber, although I have never interacted with her, but that is what first struck me about the breed, where it came from (considering I live in the middle of nowhere).

I am just happy that they are breeding under their own name and not "distorting" the GSD like has happened with some other breeds.
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Quote:Shiloh Shepherds were created in upstate NY in an attempt to bring back the old style flock- guardian German Shepherd Dogs.
What is the old style flock guardian (whaat?) German shepherd dog?......
A figmentation of their imagimacation, I'd guess.
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:10 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah I don't get that. I mean, I guess if they really ARE their own breed I'm OK with that but it does not help one's credibility to have misinformation about another breed on their web site.... Maybe they are mistaking GSDs for Great Pyrenese?

Karl Fuller and a herding dog circa 1955. Hmmmm, not a flock guardian and definitely not very big...
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