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CzechSheps 05-22-2014 08:48 AM

dog car: ute with canopy vs station wagon
 
Hello, I am in need of a car to transport my dog in a crate and house during club training.
I live in Australia so I am now mostly trying to pick what will be cooler for the dog.

I have narrowed it down to these two types of cars for my budget.

Ute with canopy
http://www.flexiglass.com.au/images/...sman_White.jpg
and station wagon
http://www.camper4sale.com.au/wp-con...7/P1020363.jpg

The ute with canopy is a more useful car in general. I think there will be more ventilation when stationary with the canopy windows opens but no air conditioning for the tray. The wagon will have air conditioning but only the back lifts up when stationary and also means my car is unlocked.

Thoughts?

Thanks

sparra 05-22-2014 09:17 AM

Haha.....thought you must have been an Aussie to be looking at a Ute ;)
The Ute would be more practical but they get pretty hot in the back......at least the station wagon has the airconditioning in the back......something to consider for the summer months.....no one will nick your car with you GSD in the back ;)
I have seen some good ventilation ideas on here for the ute......you might have go search some threads.

sparra 05-22-2014 09:30 AM

This thread was recent.....pretty neat setup http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ck-set-up.html

jocoyn 05-22-2014 11:03 AM

I just got back from a five day seminar and folks were talking pictures of my setup they liked it so much, I have found that the side windoors are quite sturdy when they are open on the highway but could be a problem driving down rough roads with them open. Look at the radius side windoor. Good access. Only issue is rain will get in the bed. I also got a rear window that will slide and let air in from the cab....and may work on that more.....but have not perfected moving air conditioned cab air to the back. I have some ideas though.

I have to tell you though. Everyone else had to cover their SUVs with aluminet, and I could park anywhere and be very cool. I also like not having inside my truck smell like dog.


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ApselBear 05-22-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jocoyn (Post 5551945)
I also got a rear window that will slide and let air in from the cab....and may work on that more.....but have not perfected moving air conditioned cab air to the back. I have some ideas though.

Find a little box fan that fits in that window? Something like those fans you've got on the crates.

martemchik 05-22-2014 12:07 PM

I have a wagon where the rear window can stay open without the hatch being open. It's nice to have.

With a wagon...I have to lower both seats to put in two crates or I can put a 36" crate in the back without lowering the rear seat if I'm just with one dog. The wagon gives you the option of also having more people in the car when you're not with dogs...if that doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

I was between a small pick up and the wagon, at the end of the day, the fact that in the wagon the dogs can benefit from AC kind of won out. Also, gas mileage...but I don't think that's a huge difference in the two cars you're talking about.

A ute would stay cleaner, and I did look into the only ute available in the states...Subaru Baja, but they are really expensive for used cars of their age due to the limited supply.

jocoyn 05-22-2014 01:26 PM

I have found it really hard to move enough air to the back of the truck to effectively cool the complete back ...and that was even with using a small eradicator fan between the cab and the camper....sucked so much air it put a strain on my AC...an AC guy told me to be effective I would have to have a way to return air from the camper so I could recirculate. All good and well but I don't want to risk sucking exhaust in from the back of the truck.

My next plan is to use 3" pipe and a marine bilge fan to direct cooled cabin air directly into the crates and onto the dogs. ... lower CFM than the radiator fan but directed airflow and the dog is always getting the good air from the cabin.

My recommendation would be.......truck is awesome if, when you get to the destination, the dog winds up in the crate a lot (we do for searches and search training the dog may have to be there for ours at a time).

For transport, I prefer the dog in the vehicle with me. Since I transport in a truck. a remote thermometer is on my dask continually telling me the temperature the dog is getting. FWIW the back of an SUV can get darned hot as well. Aluminet is great and everyone I know with an SUV uses it when they get to where they are going.

I like the added security of a truck as well. My cab is locked. My pullout drawers cannot be accessed without opening the tailgate which I lock and my dog crates lock and cannot be removed from the truck unless the tailgate is down. Having lost $600 worth of gear on a search call, that is important to me! Plus dogs get stolen for dog fighting.

jocoyn 05-22-2014 09:08 PM

Eek my apologies for spelling and autocorrect issues.....darned phone

huntergreen 05-22-2014 10:06 PM

i have always used a truck/ute with a cap/ canopy. i never leave the dogs inside if it is that hot though.

my boy diesel 05-22-2014 10:09 PM

we have a wagon type car and that is one reason i like it is that the ac can reach the back too


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