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Airman1stclass 03-21-2014 07:44 PM

How much should I invest in my dog?
 
So I was just wondering how much you guys spent on your dogs training wise. I would like to have my pup trained in the 3 phases of IPO eventually. And I want to be able to trust that he can do each job pretty much whenever I ask him. Correct me if im wrong but when testing for IPO you have to test for each level. You cant just get a high enough score and be given ipo3. How much does each test typically cost? And is there ever a time where you stop training with a trainer and do it yourself or do you always train with a trainer. I feel like after you have worked with a professional trainer you begin to pick up things and become efficient in training your dog.

sehrgutcsg 03-21-2014 08:05 PM

How is the puppy doing at this point?

Airman1stclass 03-21-2014 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sehrgutcsg (Post 5245258)
How is the puppy doing at this point?

If you are referring to his leg. He seems to be normal with no limp. Running around and playing like a puppy should be. We are still going to an orthopedic specialist Monday just to make sure everything is ok. But if you are referring to training he will be 10 weeks tomorrow. I've started him on clicker training and all we have been doing is eye contact and a little bit of sit. So yes we have a long way to go.

onyx'girl 03-21-2014 08:17 PM

I don't even want to think of the amount I've spent training. Fuel costs are the main factor, but I've paid to train for a few years and my focus was never the podium or national level competitions... I just love training and learning. Seminars are great, but costly, some of the competitions I've been involved in have no 'titles' to gain but more for fun.
Training with a trainer, IMO is important, because I like to be critiqued, challenged and held accountable for my techniques. I'm still learning, always will be. Thick skin is necessary.

I won't add up the weekly costs to train, I'd be found out by my husband if I posted that anywhere, lol

Airman1stclass 03-21-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by onyx'girl (Post 5245354)
I don't even want to think of the amount I've spent training. Fuel costs are the main factor, but I've paid to train for a few years and my focus was never the podium or national level competitions... I just love training and learning. Seminars are great, but costly, some of the competitions I've been involved in have no 'titles' to gain but more for fun.
Training with a trainer, IMO is important, because I like to be critiqued, challenged and held accountable for my techniques. I'm still learning, always will be. Thick skin is necessary.

I won't add up the weekly costs to train, I'd be found out by my husband if I posted that anywhere, lol

Lol. Are any of your dog titled in any sports?

sehrgutcsg 03-21-2014 08:27 PM

10 weeks is just a little bit early to start training maybe two or three weeks more would be a little better but that's just my opinion and also if the puppy is doing well. I can see going to a specialist for an office visit but I cannot see doing a bunch of tests if the puppy is running around in a normal fashion it just doesn't make sense to me you've already done everything you can and until the puppy show signs of needing veterinary medicine - I would just play it safe ?!>

onyx'girl 03-21-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Airman1stclass (Post 5245402)
Lol. Are any of your dog titled in any sports?

Karlo is the only one I work/train. He has his IPO 1 and I'm hoping to trial for the 2&3 this Summer. I'm not all about competing, my trial nerves get the best of me.

My females lack temperament and structure to do anything competitive. Kacie has a bad elbow and Onyx has aggression issues.

Airman1stclass 03-21-2014 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by onyx'girl (Post 5245474)
Karlo is the only one I work/train. He has his IPO 1 and I'm hoping to trial for the 2&3 this Summer. I'm not all about competing, my trial nerves get the best of me.

My females lack temperament and structure to do anything competitive. Kacie has a bad elbow and Onyx has aggression issues.

I love competition. It's a great feeling (only if you win) lol. But I would I like to see my pup develop from a puppy who knows little to nothing to a mature dog who you can trust to be offleash and listen to your every command. I actually have never seen a super trained dog ib person before. Not like I have been to the right places where there is a high chance of me seeing that. Just the regular pet smart. And pet co. Lol. Maybe just walking around the neighborhood. Most dogs are always pulling their owners all over the place. But hey that's great. You have one titled dog. I don't doubt your other dogs are very trained either. I bet your family and friends are pretty impressed with your dogs as well. I know mine would be.

Jax08 03-21-2014 08:59 PM

You should invest in your dog whatever you want to meet the goals you set.

Merciel 03-21-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Airman1stclass (Post 5245130)
And is there ever a time where you stop training with a trainer and do it yourself or do you always train with a trainer. I feel like after you have worked with a professional trainer you begin to pick up things and become efficient in training your dog.

I can't answer the questions regarding the costs of IPO trialing because I don't compete in that sport. I do know that it tends to be very expensive just in terms of gas money to get to and from practice sessions, and that people in our area frequently travel from two or three states away to enter trials -- and this is in a region that's pretty dense for dog sports. Gas, hotels, tolls (on the East Coast), and other travel expenses will eat up a big chunk of your budget if you get seriously into any dog sport.

In my opinion, no, there is never a time when you stop working with trainers. Even the best of the best are always going to seminars and studying under other top-level trainers to get feedback on what they're doing, learn new techniques of approaching old problems, and see things from a fresh perspective.

My personal experience has been that the longer you're in it, the more time and money you spend seeking out and training under the best possible instructors. You might find yourself trialing more frequently and in higher levels of competition, too, and that's also going to eat up more money on everything from gas to entry fees.

It's more expensive to chase a UDX than a BN, and it's more expensive to chase an ARCHMX than a RL1, because you have to enter more runs per day, the runs are harder, and you need double or triple Qs to count toward your title (so if you fail any individual run in a set of two or three, bam, your whole day is wasted. No points!). In IPO, once you leave the world of club competition and move into Regionals and Nationals, I imagine it's probably pretty similar. More time, more money, more stress to compete. You work harder to win and those wins come more rarely.

So pretty much if you get sucked into the world of dog sports, IME it can easily balloon into a huge investment, because as you get better, you will set the bar higher and higher, and that costs exponentially more money and time and effort.

It doesn't have to go that way. You probably won't need a trainer to help you teach a puppy Sit and Stay and so forth. But if you get hooked on competition, god have mercy on your wallet.


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