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Lobobear44 03-16-2014 04:19 PM

More likely to happen in car heat stroke or dog theft?
 
It is now getting into hot days. Okay before and after scenting class today with my dog. Been discussing to my dad that dogs are more likely to get a heat stroke than a theft. The reasons are we are in a small community center with transparent windows and our dogs and cars are clear viewed. Very short distance like 10-15 feet from cc. My parents wanted to leave windows up even a crack because of thefts. Everybody else's have windows down enough for air so they won't get hear strokes. I explained to my parents it is more likely for Riley my Labradoodle to get a heat stroke than a theft in our situation. My closed minded dad goes I don't believe that I disagree and my parents go on giving me a hard time... My parents do not listen at all.

jocoyn 03-16-2014 04:52 PM

This does not have anything to do with aggression.

It depends on how hot it is outside, if the sun is shining on the car, etc. Is it hot when you get back in the car?

I would agree that heat is usually more concern than theft. Why do you have to leave the dog in the car at all? Can you stay out there with him? One thing you may tell your dog is that it is more frequent for "animal activists" to see a dog in a car with rolled up windows and break out the windows to "save the dog" even if the conditions don't warrant it.

Jax08 03-16-2014 04:57 PM

Put it to him this way...

if someone steals your dog, they go to jail.

if the dog dies a horrible death because he was left in a car that was to hot, then your dad goes to jail.

Liesje 03-16-2014 05:00 PM

Um if the windows are only just cracked the dog WILL get sick or die. That's a given.

I bring dogs all over the country and to various training or to work on a weekly basis. No one has ever tried to steal my vehicle. If someone really wanted to steal a vehicle, a rolled up window wouldn't stop them. I'm more worried about my DOGS getting stolen but I have ways of preventing this even with doors open and windows down.

Castlemaid 03-16-2014 05:00 PM

I moved the thread out of Aggression.

sehrgutcsg 03-16-2014 05:18 PM

This is such a difficult decision when going into a bank or grocery store you need to have a thermometer adjacent to where the dog is being kept, if it's in a crate .. I happen to have 2 - 12 volt osculating fans with deep cycle car batteries attached blowing inside the camper shell - cab window is open in front the shell windows are open and back the shell would be open in case the dog needed to be taken out quickly -- but this is such a difficult decision you don't want to leave your dog home -- you want to take the dog with you -- you need to make a quick 6 min. stop it's just difficult all the way around if you're by yourself . In as little as five or six minutes the temperature can rise 25 if you're not in the shade . A magnetic sign wouldn't be a bad idea either .. :D

Liesje 03-16-2014 05:23 PM

If it's above freezing I always have windows open. The amount open and degree to which they are opened depends on the temp and the weather, but even here at *freezing* temps if it's sunny and my van is not in the shade it can get stuffy in the van.

Freestep 03-16-2014 06:29 PM

Who (besides animal activists) steals dogs out of cars? I mean, people say it can happen, and I'm sure it has happened, but I would think the risk of losing your dog to heatstroke is exponentially greater than losing him to theft.

Of course it depends on the outdoor temperature, how long you are leaving the dog in the car, and whether you park in the sun vs. the shade, etc. Common sense rules; if the car is too hot for you, it's probably too hot for your dog.

Liesje 03-16-2014 06:49 PM

Exactly, I've never heard of it. Not to mention, the dogs I train and have in my vehicle are not very likely to comply with a random person trying to take them out of their crates. Unless we are traveling cross-country and making a pit stop, they probably don't even have collars on. Nikon is quiet in the crate even with people walking near the vehicle but I'd like to see someone try to open the crate and control him without a collar on! I worry more about my luggage, camera, etc getting stolen so if we stop at a restaurant I just carry a bag inside with me. You can also get those van hatch rods that allow you to keep the hatch partially open but also locked.

nktigger99 03-16-2014 06:51 PM

There was a car stolen yesterday in the town over from me....there was an elderly JRT who is blind both eyes removed.....the dog was taken with car....it was a car theft not a dog theft....I have a feeling they dumped the dog when they discovered the old man. Praying the dog finds its way home.

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