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Old 01-18-2014, 08:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I wish I could....but as I posted "these are the questions I ask".

Another observation I have made. GSDs amongst a few other breeds have such a wide variance in shapes and sizes. Yes, I suppose being one of the top most popular dogs has it's setbacks but most every purebred smooth/rough coat Collie/ St Bernard/Newfie/Afghan Hound etc. one sees, they basically are so much more homogenized in appearance. So, what's up with the wide array of GSDs when it comes to appearance?

Yes, I ask many questions.


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Because everyone and their mother thinks that they should breed their dogs these days. The standard is going to be lost eventually. After seeing a couple of sites posted as "examples" in another thread...I'm convinced we may have lost it already.
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Fantastic. We could call them MinSheps and sell them for $5,000 apiece.
Carma is long hair so that should be able to jack the price of her puppies up at least another grand though.
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Carma is long hair so that should be able to jack the price of her puppies up at least another grand though.
Fantastic. With the long hair and Hans's easty-westy paws and short upper arms, they will be fabulously exotic looking pups! Woohoo!
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I've only been in this forum for less than a year and I have come to discover, all too many GSD owners are so caught up in having a BIG dog, so BIG they might purposely overfeed the dog so they can say...."...yeah my shepherd weighs a hundred and ....... pounds". It's almost as if having a bigger dog/GSD somehow makes one feel a sense of elevated status. Why is it, we never hear anyone shout from the rooftops "....YES, it's a purebred GSD and it only weighs 16 pounds"? Actually, a toy shepherd would be interesting.

These are the questions I ask.


Anyway, my ideal GSD is healthy and well behaved.....notice the order of the adjectives...priority intended.

Okay, so in order to stop this " I have a huge GSD " problem, I am laying it to rest. Please understand, I simply have the biggest GSD and it will never be topped, so please, keep your dogs lean and mean.....all involved benefit.

Attached is a picture of my GSD named Riese Mammut. I am in the picture as well and have used all those "keep you looking young" products as seen on TV...and available as well...usually you get twice as much as you expected and all for just a small additional shipping and handling fee. I was 51 when that picture was taken last year.

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LOL!!! I love the picture! You have the biggest. Now we can move on.
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Attached is a picture of my GSD named Riese Mammut. I am in the picture as well and have used all those "keep you looking young" products as seen on TV...and available as well...usually you get twice as much as you expected and all for just a small additional shipping and handling fee. I was 51 when that picture was taken last year.

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Now, that's what I call a saddle back!
Hehehehehehe

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I have a teacup GSD.
Hans is 66.5 lbs.
Heh, heh.
My boy is only 65!

I had a guy come up to me and my dog at a pet store once bragging to me about his 'King Shepherd' and how much bigger he was then my dog. I was like REALLY??

I prefer my puny dude.
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I think it's is a combination of things. It's been my experience that GSD's get lumped in with much larger dogs called "large breed" like mastiffs and Great Dane which are actually giant breed dogs. Danes and Mastiffs are huge so they think a GSD should be huge as well.

Then you have the vet and dog food companies telling owners to be sure to feed large breed puppy food because the pup is "going to be big." Lending to the idea that German Shepherds are suppose to be some big heavy dog.
What they (vets) often fail to mention is the large breed puppy food has more to do with slowing growth for overall bone health as the breed matures physically slower then other dogs of the same size. Lower calories per cup, better calcium ratios etc. to help stave off joint health issues among other things.

As for people wanting larger German Shepherds...

Just this past week at the pet store I was speaking with a woman who introduced me and my 10 month old female (about 24 in. & 58-59 lbs) to her 8 month old female "giant shepherd" as she called her. This pup was huge (much bigger than my girl) and I believe was a genuine King Shepherd. She told me she liked all her dogs to be big as she walks at night alone and thinks the bigger dog is more intimidating. She also had a beautiful Samoyed with her that appeared to be on the large size for the breed as well.
IMO I think many people think bigger means more intimidating, fearsome and more powerful. They don't realize that a well trained smaller dog can be just as intimidating, protective, fearsome and effective as the bigger dog. Probably more so.

Put someone in a dark alley faced with a very tall, large male and they, more often than not, will be cautious and somewhat fearful at the least.
Take that same person and put them in a dark alley with a small slight built man and they will probably walk right by with ease and might even say "hi" never realizing the small guy has the gun or knife and they are in grave danger.

It's about the unrealistic perception... not the reality.
Like they say...bigger is better!
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I think it's is a combination of things. It's been my experience that GSD's get lumped in with much larger dogs called "large breed" like mastiffs and Great Dane which are actually giant breed dogs. Danes and Mastiffs are huge so they think a GSD should be huge as well.

Then you have the vet and dog food companies telling owners to be sure to feed large breed puppy food because the pup is "going to be big." Lending to the idea that German Shepherds are suppose to be some big heavy dog.
What they (vets) often fail to mention is the large breed puppy food has more to do with slowing growth for overall bone health as the breed matures physically slower then other dogs of the same size. Lower calories per cup, better calcium ratios etc. to help stave off joint health issues among other things.

As for people wanting larger German Shepherds...

Just this past week at the pet store I was speaking with a woman who introduced me and my 10 month old female (about 24 in. & 58-59 lbs) to her 8 month old female "giant shepherd" as she called her. This pup was huge (much bigger than my girl) and I believe was a genuine King Shepherd. She told me she liked all her dogs to be big as she walks at night alone and thinks the bigger dog is more intimidating. She also had a beautiful Samoyed with her that appeared to be on the large size for the breed as well.
IMO I think many people think bigger means more intimidating, fearsome and more powerful. They don't realize that a well trained smaller dog can be just as intimidating, protective, fearsome and effective as the bigger dog. Probably more so.

Put someone in a dark alley faced with a very tall, large male and they, more often than not, will be cautious and somewhat fearful at the least.
Take that same person and put them in a dark alley with a small slight built man and they will probably walk right by with ease and might even say "hi" never realizing the small guy has the gun or knife and they are in grave danger.

It's about the unrealistic perception... not the reality.
Like they say...bigger is better!
Great perspective....interesting.

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My girl is a healthy, lean 67 lbs, and I've never gotten a comment that she's small for a shepherd, but her presence is big if that makes sense, she's very serious. But my 90 lb black coatie gets comments all the time about how he looks too small for a GSD :-/ He's shorter and acts like a goofy teddy bear so I guess he looks smaller in their minds? He's built much thicker than her though.

Bottom line: people are stupid. It's all mind games.
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