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Old 01-04-2014, 11:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think that Bernd and Bodo von Lierberg were considered ideal GSD's in thier time.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So, there isn't a #1 consensus dog? Was just asking. I'm new. I'm sure you all know who Zamp Thermodos was, right? Where can I buy a dog that looks like that? I'm tired of looking around and reading one ad after another from people claiming to be responsible breeders in the best interest of the breed. Can someone just tell me where to buy a dog like that?
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So, there isn't a #1 consensus dog? Was just asking. I'm new. I'm sure you all know who Zamp Thermodos was, right? Where can I buy a dog that looks like that? I'm tired of looking around and reading one ad after another from people claiming to be responsible breeders in the best interest of the breed. Can someone just tell me where to buy a dog like that?
Zamp is a German Show line dog. Dead now, I think, but he has to have a lot of progeny.

There are no short cuts. You can either trust links on the internet to people's different websites, or you can go the whole nine yards and determine whether a breeder is ethical or not. We can possibly give you some names to look at, but ultimately determining whether a breeder is good enough is up to you.

ETA: there is no hurry in finding a breeder for a good pup. It is a decision that will have repercussions for hopefully 10 to 14 years. Do your research and don't rush it.
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poorly phrased question --

of course the Lierbergs , for show lines include Uran Wildsteigerland, for American lines Lance of Fran Jo

OP wants a dog that looks like this VA1 Zamp vom Thermodos basic black and red of West German show lines -- easy to find
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poorly phrased question --

of course the Lierbergs , for show lines include Uran Wildsteigerland, for American lines Lance of Fran Jo

OP wants a dog that looks like this VA1 Zamp vom Thermodos basic black and red of West German show lines -- easy to find
So, where do I find one that looks like Zamp since it's so easy? That's all I ask. Thanks.
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Zamp is a German Show line dog. Dead now, I think, but he has to have a lot of progeny.

There are no short cuts. You can either trust links on the internet to people's different websites, or you can go the whole nine yards and determine whether a breeder is ethical or not. We can possibly give you some names to look at, but ultimately determining whether a breeder is good enough is up to you.

ETA: there is no hurry in finding a breeder for a good pup. It is a decision that will have repercussions for hopefully 10 to 14 years. Do your research and don't rush it.
I hope I don't sound rude, I don't mean to. You have over 20,000 posts, I'm on the Premium German Shepherd Forum and you can't tell me where to buy a dog that I'm looking for?
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I hope I don't sound rude, I don't mean to. You have over 20,000 posts, I'm on the Premium German Shepherd Forum and you can't tell me where to buy a dog that I'm looking for?
You demanding someone tell you where to buy a shepherd is like going onto a dating website and saying, "come on! Why isn't anyone telling me who I should marry!!??"

Okay, obviously not as serious, but that little tantrum towards Sue made me giggle. The right dog for you probably isn't the right dog for me, the right dog for me may not be right for anyone else, someone can't tell you where to go get a dog...especially on the internet where no one knows you or what your plans are. You doing sport? PSA? Agility? Flyball? AKC Obedience? Family Dog? Kennel Dog? Have kids? Family? etc...

Stick around here a bit, get to know the different lines, figure out what it is you want out of the dog temperament-wise (that's way more important than color), etc....There are lots of good breeders out there and there are lots of bad breeders. There is a "search bar" on this site, look up "West German Showline Breeders" in it and some threads will pop up with recommendations.
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You demanding someone tell you where to buy a shepherd is like going onto a dating website and saying, "come on! Why isn't anyone telling me who I should marry!!??"

Okay, obviously not as serious, but that little tantrum towards Sue made me giggle.

Stick around here a bit, get to know the different lines, figure out what it is you want out of the dog temperament-wise (that's way more important than color), etc....There are lots of good breeders out there and there are lots of bad breeders. There is a "search bar" on this site, look up "West German Showline Breeders" in it and some threads will pop up with recommendations.
I didn't throw a tantrum, did I? I've been reading for months. Just recently had the nerve to join because I know how forums go.

Simple. I don't need anymore research. I want a dog exactly like Zamp Vom Thermodos. Don't care who the breeder is as long as they can supply that dog. I put my faith in the hands of the people that have spent years on this forum to tell me where to get that dog.

That is not a short cut to me. That is relying on others research and development.

You ever build a plane? Should I tell you to research it, go slow and use your best judgement or do you want to sit back and rely on my experience?

I do believe I read the same thing over and over here from people that at one time was good advice but now is repeated by every anature that wants to chime in.

What do you want? What are you going to do with him? Show? Temperament? Blah blah.

I told you. I want Zamp Vom Thermodos. Where do I get one? If you know the dog, you know exactly what I want. I want the Legend.

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I didn't throw a tantrum, did I? I've been reading for months. Just recently had the nerve to join because I know how forums go.

Simple. I don't need anymore research. I want a dog exactly like Zamp Vom Thermodos. Don't care who the breeder is as long as they can supply that dog. I put my faith in the hands of the people that have spent years on this forum to tell me where to get that dog.

That is not a short cut to me. That is relying on others research and development.

You ever build a plane? Should I tell you to research it, go slow and use your best judgement or do you want to sit back and rely on my experience?

I do believe I read the same thing over and over here from people that at one time was good advice but now is repeated by every anature that wants to chime in.

What do you want? What are you going to do with him? Show? Temperament? Blah blah.

I told you. I want Zamp Vom Thermodos. Where do I get one? If you know the dog, you know exactly what I want. I want the Legend.
You should phone those that owned Zamp then...
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