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Old 04-04-2013, 03:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,

I have a 4 month old GSD who is really friendly. For the most part he just goes up to dogs of all sizes, sniffs them and licks there faces (except for the really big dogs that he's still afraid of).

I'm okay with my dog engaging in a little rough play when the dogs seem to be going back and forth, but when an older dog just dominates him physically and my dog runs but can't get away, and just gets rolled continually, what is the proper course of action? On one hand I think that my pup is going to need to learn how to defend himself and let the other dog know when enough is enough. On the other hand, it's not the method of play that I prefer and I wouldn't like it if my dog was doing this to other dogs. I'd like to be clear, these dogs don't seem overly aggressive; they still seem to be just playing, but it's extremely one sided.

Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Old 04-04-2013, 04:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would step in immediately. My criteria for play, even rough play (and my dogs play ROUGH together!) is that everyone needs to appear to be having fun and enjoying themselves - if not, then it's time for me to stop it. If he's running away he's not having fun.

At 4 months old he's at an impressionable age. He's not learning appropriate greeting behavior and dog communication and play skills if he's being bullied. I would either find playmates who are more evenly matched, or skip the park, at least until he's older and more confident.
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I agree with Cassidy's Mom, and stop the play, your dog is getting stressed. I would not worry about your dog needing skills right now to defend itself. In about 6 months your dog will be trying to display plenty of self defense techniques, not always desirable. You don't want it to learn inappropriate behavior from certain dogs at the dog park.
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Make it 3 for stopping it. Probably best to just go home after that.

It shows your dog that you are looking out for him and ready to protect him. That's how you show good leadership.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Stop play when you're uncomfortable.

My only suggestion is that you get YOUR dog and remove him from the situation. DO NOT correct the other dog, do not get mad at the other owner for not correcting their dog, but if YOU'RE uncomfortable...remove YOUR dog.

Like you've stated...the other dogs just play rougher...its not aggressive, just rougher. It's not your place to correct another person's dog, or teach the other dog how YOU want them to play. If their owner is fine with it, they're fine with it. Imagine if they have not heard any issues for the entirety of their park going life (and many are regulars) and now someone walks in with a 4 month old puppy (which shouldn't even be in most dog parks as they have a 6 month minimum rule usually established by the fact that rabies is given at 6 months), and tells them how their dog should be behaving.
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My only suggestion is that you get YOUR dog and remove him from the situation. DO NOT correct the other dog, do not get mad at the other owner for not correcting their dog, but if YOU'RE uncomfortable...remove YOUR dog.
Agreed, as hard as it is you can only be responsible for your dog. There are good matches and bad matches inside a dog park, each time you hope there are more good then bad. Your dog is a young puppy so be aware that not all dogs know how to play gently with puppies

Hopefully the park is large enough you can remove him from the bad situation and move to another area far enough away and try again
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At a certain point there should be social pressure on people to teach their dogs to behave appropriately or else stay away. Sure, you aren't responsible for their dog, but standards for reasonable behavior need to be communicated to those who don't know better. Otherwise any and all behaviour is accepted and responsible people stay away.

I'll put a stop to another dog's behaviour (just with respect how it interacts with my dog) regardless of how happy the other owner is with his dog's behaviour. And if it is egregious I'll tell them their dog shouldn't be there.

Of course, the problem is many people can't read their own dogs much less anyone else's. Correctly reading someone else's dog as inappropriately aggressive when the owner incorrectly thinks it is just rough play is a recipe for fireworks if you don't choose your words carefully. Regardless of how right you may be.
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If both dogs are not enjoying the play I will call my dog back to me.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If you use a long line on the pup you will have more chance of controlling the situation.

I don't think a pup should not be left to fend for itself in a dog park. That is asking for problems.

In that situation, you can protect the pup by shielding him from the other dog. Once the pup is in your space you have a right and responsibility to protect it. Chances are, the other dog will not persist when he see's that you are in control of the situation.

By succeeding in calming the situation your pup will feel safe and confident in your presence when approached by other dogs. This is the basics of socializing in my opinion. You have to act as your pups guardian until it is confident and strong enough to look after itself.
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I'm just curious what you all would do if you were the owner of the other dog? If you had a dog that wasn't aggressive at all, but just didn't know how to play gently with smaller/less bold dogs?

To the OP, I would also (calmly) protect my pup. Like martemchik said, you can only deal with your dog
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