Opinion on this GSD

benjdow · 02-09-2013, 02:21 PM

Hi, I'm considering adopting this GSD. I was told he was 2 years old, but he looks awfully small. So either he's a small GSD or the age is incorrect. Any opinions on possible lines? I know the pictures aren't the best, but it's all I have.

msvette2u · 02-09-2013, 03:04 PM

Where are you? Is he in a pound?

benjdow · 02-09-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by msvette2u

Where are you? Is he in a pound?

He's an MWD that didn't make it through training...I believe because of a broken tooth

Kaleb f · 02-09-2013, 04:08 PM

He does look small but with all these 100 lb dogs now days he might be "normal" size. if he was gonna be a MWD I'm sure he is good working lines. Other than that I don't know what your asking. Have you met the dog?

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msvette2u · 02-09-2013, 04:18 PM

Well GSDs aren't supposed to be 100lb. beasts although people have asked me if ours was a "miniature" when he was just at the standard for height

Kaleb f · 02-09-2013, 04:24 PM

I would rather have a 75 lb male dog than 120 lb dog like some have. They eat more anyway

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KZoppa · 02-09-2013, 04:42 PM

He certainly has those "Let me out" puppy dog eyes going. He does look on the smaller side but it's possible thats just his structure. Is he at a military facility kennel? If he's the age you're told, then I'd say he's on the smaller side for a male but thats not a bad thing. He'd probably have a blast in agility and excel in it due to his smaller size. If you could get better pictures of him, that might help. Honestly, I don't see any problems with him. MWDs when adopted are required to disclose all health issues in the dog. Its just part of their program rules for it.

benjdow · 02-09-2013, 05:30 PM

I haven't met him formally, and the picture was taken at the kennel. Compared to the other GSD's there, he's noticeably smaller, although he did appear to have a puppy look. He was smaller than the Beligians as well. I'll find out more definitive details next week. I mainly trying to figure out if someone may have misspoke when they said he's 2 y/o and I assumed he was of Euro lines and they are typically on the larger side I thought

KZoppa · 02-09-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by benjdow

I haven't met him formally, and the picture was taken at the kennel. Compared to the other GSD's there, he's noticeably smaller, although he did appear to have a puppy look. He was smaller than the Beligians as well. I'll find out more definitive details next week. I mainly trying to figure out if someone may have misspoke when they said he's 2 y/o and I assumed he was of Euro lines and they are typically on the larger side I thought

its very possible his age is either mispoken or he's just a smaller guy. Occassionally there are smaller males than you'd expect.

benjdow · 02-14-2013, 11:58 AM

So I went to visit him yesterday. He's 2 years, 1 month old. He weighs 55lb's, but weighed 65lb's before he was taken out of training. The handeler said they prefer them smaller because their more versatile. His temperment is good, well behaved, and friendly. He's neutered, micro-chipped, had the surgery done so his stomach doesn't flip upside down. I don't know what breeder he came from other than he's purchased over seas at 1 year old. The military buys dogs based on their needs and don't pay much attention to the lines, etc.

The bad: it wasn't because of a broken tooth that made him unfit for duty, it's a skin allergy and dental attrition. He's been there for a year, but didn't develop the skin issue until 6 months of being there. From what I gather after speaking with the vet and reading through the 30 something pages of documention on him is that the skin allergy, or dermatitas, was bad but responded well to treatment. They said he needs a special food and baths with a special shampoo, along with some medicine they'd give me. They didn't specify what the allergy is, but I did read "chronic atopy".

I really don't know what to do. I like him a lot, but I also don't want to be one of those people spending thousands to resolve a skin issue...I don't have thousands to spend anyway. The handeler had told me they had a GSD they adopted out previously for the same reasons, and said his skin issues went away entirely after 3 months with the new family...that gave me a little hope. He said the dogs go through a lot of stress being in that type of enviornment. Ugh...I barely slept last night because I can't decide what to do.

Here's a brief of his issues and dates
22MAR12-fractured teeth, 204&304, resolved 27MAR12
22MAR12-Right Paracostal Gastropexy, resolved 23JUL12
27MAR12-root canal 104,204,304,404, resolved 27MAR12
23JUL12-Sent to Disposition board due to dental attrition. Unfit for duty
23JUL12-Severe generalized dermatitis, resolved 30JUL12
25SEP12-Scrotal ablation/orchiectomy, resolved 05OCT12
29OCT12-Malassezia dermatitis, resolved 03JAN12

02-09-2013, 02:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
benjdow New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 17	Opinion on this GSD Hi, I'm considering adopting this GSD. I was told he was 2 years old, but he looks awfully small. So either he's a small GSD or the age is incorrect. Any opinions on possible lines? I know the pictures aren't the best, but it's all I have.

02-09-2013, 04:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kaleb f Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 77	Opinion on this GSD He does look small but with all these 100 lb dogs now days he might be "normal" size. if he was gonna be a MWD I'm sure he is good working lines. Other than that I don't know what your asking. Have you met the dog? Sent from Petguide.com Free App

02-09-2013, 04:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kaleb f Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 77	Opinion on this GSD I would rather have a 75 lb male dog than 120 lb dog like some have. They eat more anyway Sent from Petguide.com Free App

02-09-2013, 04:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
KZoppa Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 16,294	He certainly has those "Let me out" puppy dog eyes going. He does look on the smaller side but it's possible thats just his structure. Is he at a military facility kennel? If he's the age you're told, then I'd say he's on the smaller side for a male but thats not a bad thing. He'd probably have a blast in agility and excel in it due to his smaller size. If you could get better pictures of him, that might help. Honestly, I don't see any problems with him. MWDs when adopted are required to disclose all health issues in the dog. Its just part of their program rules for it. __________________ The more people I meet and talk to,the more I love my dogs and their intelligence. Zena GSD 6/1/03 Shasta GSD 5/5/10 "Dax" Thor z vom Weberhaus GSD 3/18/2013 Riley GSD/BC 1/10/05-2/1/2013

02-09-2013, 03:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
msvette2u Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beautiful Pacific NW Posts: 11,005	Where are you? Is he in a pound?

02-09-2013, 04:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
msvette2u Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beautiful Pacific NW Posts: 11,005	Well GSDs aren't supposed to be 100lb. beasts although people have asked me if ours was a "miniature" when he was just at the standard for height

02-09-2013, 05:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
benjdow New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 17	I haven't met him formally, and the picture was taken at the kennel. Compared to the other GSD's there, he's noticeably smaller, although he did appear to have a puppy look. He was smaller than the Beligians as well. I'll find out more definitive details next week. I mainly trying to figure out if someone may have misspoke when they said he's 2 y/o and I assumed he was of Euro lines and they are typically on the larger side I thought

02-14-2013, 11:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
benjdow New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 17	So I went to visit him yesterday. He's 2 years, 1 month old. He weighs 55lb's, but weighed 65lb's before he was taken out of training. The handeler said they prefer them smaller because their more versatile. His temperment is good, well behaved, and friendly. He's neutered, micro-chipped, had the surgery done so his stomach doesn't flip upside down. I don't know what breeder he came from other than he's purchased over seas at 1 year old. The military buys dogs based on their needs and don't pay much attention to the lines, etc. The bad: it wasn't because of a broken tooth that made him unfit for duty, it's a skin allergy and dental attrition. He's been there for a year, but didn't develop the skin issue until 6 months of being there. From what I gather after speaking with the vet and reading through the 30 something pages of documention on him is that the skin allergy, or dermatitas, was bad but responded well to treatment. They said he needs a special food and baths with a special shampoo, along with some medicine they'd give me. They didn't specify what the allergy is, but I did read "chronic atopy". I really don't know what to do. I like him a lot, but I also don't want to be one of those people spending thousands to resolve a skin issue...I don't have thousands to spend anyway. The handeler had told me they had a GSD they adopted out previously for the same reasons, and said his skin issues went away entirely after 3 months with the new family...that gave me a little hope. He said the dogs go through a lot of stress being in that type of enviornment. Ugh...I barely slept last night because I can't decide what to do. Here's a brief of his issues and dates 22MAR12-fractured teeth, 204&304, resolved 27MAR12 22MAR12-Right Paracostal Gastropexy, resolved 23JUL12 27MAR12-root canal 104,204,304,404, resolved 27MAR12 23JUL12-Sent to Disposition board due to dental attrition. Unfit for duty 23JUL12-Severe generalized dermatitis, resolved 30JUL12 25SEP12-Scrotal ablation/orchiectomy, resolved 05OCT12 29OCT12-Malassezia dermatitis, resolved 03JAN12

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