Intense Ball Drive?

Seth08 · 01-30-2013, 09:45 PM

I was talking to my pups breeder about more of her pedigree today. He told me her dads side are all law enforcement dogs, and also bread for intense ball drive. He explained it bit more. But what is intense ball drive really for besides she loves to never put down her tennis ball.

Her moms side is completely white, and bread to be calm.

But I am very curious about what intense ball drive actually is, or is this concept so simple I'm just looking to far in it.

martemchik · 01-30-2013, 09:58 PM

Can you post a pedigree? Or the names of the parents?

Ball drive is exactly what it sounds like. The drive to go after a ball. Ball drive helps a lot in training as you can make the ball a reward, and the dog will do everything for that ball.

huntergreen · 01-30-2013, 10:12 PM

my dog kyra had this intense ball drive you speak of. it is just that, a drive to get that ball. as much as some dogs will do anything for food, these gsd's will do anything for that ball.

jchilders04 · 01-31-2013, 01:52 PM

Intense ball drive, as others have noted, is what it sounds like, drive for the ball.

Now where intense ball drive comes in to play, is again, as said, they will do anything for the ball. That means I can teach my dog to do X and since she wants to ball so bad, she will learn and do X with extreme speed.

It also means that the dog will do things quick, fast, or precise when she THINKS I have the ball.

edit: PS before anyone else jumps to conclusions don't use actual tennis balls (use balls made for dogs)

Jag · 01-31-2013, 06:02 PM

First (because it's driving me nuts) bread is what you eat. Animals are bred.

Onto the breeder issue. Breeding for 'ball drive' is a load of junk. There are a million other things I'd like to hear a breeder tell me they're breeding for. Ball drive? Whatever. Next issue- why take generations of 'police dogs' and breed to a white GSD for "calmness"??? It sounds like this breeder doesn't know what they're doing in their breeding. If you haven't bought a pup from them, DON'T. I'd also like to see proof of the 'generations of police dogs'. There are sleazy breeders out there that will say all kinds of junk, and people buy it without checking it out. Most shepherds love balls. Over the years, I've seen so many pics of shepherds with tennis balls (or other balls) in their mouths I began to wonder if they weren't born with a ball in there, lol! Seriously, though, I don't think this is a reputable breeder. I've been wrong before, though. I don't like what they're telling you, though, or what they're putting together to breed.

itisdieter · 02-01-2013, 01:10 AM

Jag said it better than I could.

Ball drive is good to make training easier, but you do not breed for it.

wolfy dog · 02-01-2013, 01:24 AM

How about breeding for bone drive, Frisbee drive, rubber chicken drive, sticks-the size-of-trees drive? The term ball drive is silly. Working drive is what this means.

Seth08 · 02-11-2013, 05:02 PM

This is the online pedigree let me know if the link works

AKC: Research Pedigree - 4 Generation

Wild Wolf · 02-11-2013, 05:07 PM

I see no evidence of police dogs...

Seth08 · 02-11-2013, 05:11 PM

ethier way I love the pup, I was just curious on the intense ball drive question was all.

01-30-2013, 09:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Seth08 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: AL Posts: 115	Intense Ball Drive? I was talking to my pups breeder about more of her pedigree today. He told me her dads side are all law enforcement dogs, and also bread for intense ball drive. He explained it bit more. But what is intense ball drive really for besides she loves to never put down her tennis ball. Her moms side is completely white, and bread to be calm. But I am very curious about what intense ball drive actually is, or is this concept so simple I'm just looking to far in it. __________________ Athena(Black/Silver) GSD - born 12/15/2012 Last edited by Seth08; 01-30-2013 at 09:52 PM.

01-30-2013, 09:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
martemchik Knighted Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,455	Can you post a pedigree? Or the names of the parents? Ball drive is exactly what it sounds like. The drive to go after a ball. Ball drive helps a lot in training as you can make the ball a reward, and the dog will do everything for that ball. __________________ Rooney CD RE TC HIC 7/10

01-31-2013, 06:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jag Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,683	First (because it's driving me nuts) bread is what you eat. Animals are bred. Onto the breeder issue. Breeding for 'ball drive' is a load of junk. There are a million other things I'd like to hear a breeder tell me they're breeding for. Ball drive? Whatever. Next issue- why take generations of 'police dogs' and breed to a white GSD for "calmness"??? It sounds like this breeder doesn't know what they're doing in their breeding. If you haven't bought a pup from them, DON'T. I'd also like to see proof of the 'generations of police dogs'. There are sleazy breeders out there that will say all kinds of junk, and people buy it without checking it out. Most shepherds love balls. Over the years, I've seen so many pics of shepherds with tennis balls (or other balls) in their mouths I began to wonder if they weren't born with a ball in there, lol! Seriously, though, I don't think this is a reputable breeder. I've been wrong before, though. I don't like what they're telling you, though, or what they're putting together to breed. __________________ Wrath of Grim z Dragon "Mr. Grim"- Threaten my handler. I dare you.

02-01-2013, 01:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
wolfy dog Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,292	How about breeding for bone drive, Frisbee drive, rubber chicken drive, sticks-the size-of-trees drive? The term ball drive is silly. Working drive is what this means. __________________ To know if you are doing things right, you should be willing to trade places with your dog.

02-11-2013, 05:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Seth08 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: AL Posts: 115	This is the online pedigree let me know if the link works AKC: Research Pedigree - 4 Generation __________________ Athena(Black/Silver) GSD - born 12/15/2012

01-30-2013, 10:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
huntergreen Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,197	my dog kyra had this intense ball drive you speak of. it is just that, a drive to get that ball. as much as some dogs will do anything for food, these gsd's will do anything for that ball.

01-31-2013, 01:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
jchilders04 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 42	Intense ball drive, as others have noted, is what it sounds like, drive for the ball. Now where intense ball drive comes in to play, is again, as said, they will do anything for the ball. That means I can teach my dog to do X and since she wants to ball so bad, she will learn and do X with extreme speed. It also means that the dog will do things quick, fast, or precise when she THINKS I have the ball. edit: PS before anyone else jumps to conclusions don't use actual tennis balls (use balls made for dogs)

02-01-2013, 01:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
itisdieter Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 41	Jag said it better than I could. Ball drive is good to make training easier, but you do not breed for it.

02-11-2013, 05:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Wild Wolf Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,932	I see no evidence of police dogs... __________________ ~ Angel SG S-Hunter vom Geistwasser CGN TT (DM Clear) AIRPORT WILDLIFE & BIRD CONTROL K9 http://www.k9instinct.com

02-11-2013, 05:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Seth08 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: AL Posts: 115	ethier way I love the pup, I was just curious on the intense ball drive question was all. __________________ Athena(Black/Silver) GSD - born 12/15/2012

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