Lambriar?

PuppyKono · 12-26-2012, 01:03 AM

Ok so after looking at Kono's registration papers for AKC, ACA and, APA (Yeah three different clubs I dont know if thats good or bad

)I noticed that Kono came from Lambriar and so I looked it up and at first I saw comments that they were a puppy mill so I got worried

but then I read more and I guess they are the middle man for puppy mills... Is that always true? or could there be a chance that she was from a actual breeder not a puppy mill? (I did get her from a pet store but I remember they had a sign that they dont affiliate with puppy mills HAHA!) Since she doesnt have any problems with her. I have no clue and I want to figure this out. I looked up her parents and they were registered in AKC (Only because I saw this one post on here about fake registration) So any Information would help. I want to know anything about them Thanks!

DharmasMom · 12-26-2012, 01:27 AM

If you got her from a pet store than odd are excellent that she came from a puppy mill. No reputable or decent breeder would sell the pups in a per shop.

angelas · 12-26-2012, 01:29 AM

Lambriar is not a mill, it is a broker. It buys puppies from many different mills and then resells them to the pet stores. They are a wholesaler.

No ethical breeder will allow their puppies sold through a pet store. There are instances where stores buy their stock directly from a (non-ethical) breeder, but when a broker is involved it's pretty much a dead give away that they dog was born in a commercial kennel.

You can use her AKC registration to track down her breeder then see if you can get the breeder's inspection reports from the USDA or the state department of agriculture. Lambriars will be available through the USDA. You will most likely have to file through FOIA. I remember helping the owner of nopuppymills.com enter info in her database from them and they came to her at the speed of bureaucracy.

qbchottu · 12-26-2012, 01:52 AM

Pet-Broker Lambriar Shuts Down -- It Kept Puppy Mills in Business | Dogster
One of the Largest Puppy Brokers Shuts Its Doors! | ASPCA Blog
NEWS! One of the Largest Puppy Brokers Shuts Its Doors! - Puppy Mill Awareness Meetup (Southeast Michigan) (Northville, MI) - Meetup
http://www.humanesociety.org/assets/...nnsylvania.pdf

They buy from puppy mills and sell to pet stores. They are middlemen/brokers. Google them - there are countless accounts about their practices.

PuppyKono · 12-26-2012, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelas

Lambriar is not a mill, it is a broker. It buys puppies from many different mills and then resells them to the pet stores. They are a wholesaler.

No ethical breeder will allow their puppies sold through a pet store. There are instances where stores buy their stock directly from a (non-ethical) breeder, but when a broker is involved it's pretty much a dead give away that they dog was born in a commercial kennel.

You can use her AKC registration to track down her breeder then see if you can get the breeder's inspection reports from the USDA or the state department of agriculture. Lambriars will be available through the USDA. You will most likely have to file through FOIA. I remember helping the owner of nopuppymills.com enter info in her database from them and they came to her at the speed of bureaucracy.

OK so what is the USDA and what is FOIA? and how would I see the breeder once I register her? Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by DharmasMom

If you got her from a pet store than odd are excellent that she came from a puppy mill. No reputable or decent breeder would sell the pups in a per shop.

Thank you for the information

Quote:

Originally Posted by qbchottu

Pet-Broker Lambriar Shuts Down -- It Kept Puppy Mills in Business | Dogster
One of the Largest Puppy Brokers Shuts Its Doors! | ASPCA Blog
NEWS! One of the Largest Puppy Brokers Shuts Its Doors! - Puppy Mill Awareness Meetup (Southeast Michigan) (Northville, MI) - Meetup
http://www.humanesociety.org/assets/...nnsylvania.pdf

They buy from puppy mills and sell to pet stores. They are middlemen/brokers. Google them - there are countless accounts about their practices.

Thanks! Ill check those links out

**Cassidy's Mom** · 12-26-2012, 02:09 AM

USDA is the US Department of Agriculture: U.S. Department of Agriculture

FOIA is the Freedom of Information Act: FOIA.gov - Freedom of Information Act

PuppyKono · 12-26-2012, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassidy's Mom

USDA is the US Department of Agriculture: U.S. Department of Agriculture

FOIA is the Freedom of Information Act: FOIA.gov - Freedom of Information Act

Thank you! C:

12-26-2012, 01:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
PuppyKono Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 159	Lambriar? Ok so after looking at Kono's registration papers for AKC, ACA and, APA (Yeah three different clubs I dont know if thats good or bad )I noticed that Kono came from Lambriar and so I looked it up and at first I saw comments that they were a puppy mill so I got worried but then I read more and I guess they are the middle man for puppy mills... Is that always true? or could there be a chance that she was from a actual breeder not a puppy mill? (I did get her from a pet store but I remember they had a sign that they dont affiliate with puppy mills HAHA!) Since she doesnt have any problems with her. I have no clue and I want to figure this out. I looked up her parents and they were registered in AKC (Only because I saw this one post on here about fake registration) So any Information would help. I want to know anything about them Thanks! __________________ Kono ~ 2/25/12 "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." -Will Rogers

12-26-2012, 01:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
DharmasMom Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,866	If you got her from a pet store than odd are excellent that she came from a puppy mill. No reputable or decent breeder would sell the pups in a per shop. __________________ Debbi- Mom to: -Dharma Van Fluffy Pants GSD -Pippa Von Neurotic Butt- GSD -Tessa- 11yo GSD- Waiting at the Bridge. RIP sweet girl.

12-26-2012, 02:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 27,414	USDA is the US Department of Agriculture: U.S. Department of Agriculture FOIA is the Freedom of Information Act: FOIA.gov - Freedom of Information Act __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 FDCh-G TF-III Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

12-26-2012, 01:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
angelas Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: East Central SK Posts: 1,642	Lambriar is not a mill, it is a broker. It buys puppies from many different mills and then resells them to the pet stores. They are a wholesaler. No ethical breeder will allow their puppies sold through a pet store. There are instances where stores buy their stock directly from a (non-ethical) breeder, but when a broker is involved it's pretty much a dead give away that they dog was born in a commercial kennel. You can use her AKC registration to track down her breeder then see if you can get the breeder's inspection reports from the USDA or the state department of agriculture. Lambriars will be available through the USDA. You will most likely have to file through FOIA. I remember helping the owner of nopuppymills.com enter info in her database from them and they came to her at the speed of bureaucracy.

12-26-2012, 01:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
qbchottu Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,714	Pet-Broker Lambriar Shuts Down -- It Kept Puppy Mills in Business \| Dogster One of the Largest Puppy Brokers Shuts Its Doors! \| ASPCA Blog NEWS! One of the Largest Puppy Brokers Shuts Its Doors! - Puppy Mill Awareness Meetup (Southeast Michigan) (Northville, MI) - Meetup http://www.humanesociety.org/assets/...nnsylvania.pdf They buy from puppy mills and sell to pet stores. They are middlemen/brokers. Google them - there are countless accounts about their practices.

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