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Old 12-15-2012, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Does anyone here have a GSD that's not "acceptable" color wise?

I was looking for breeders in my area and came across a breeder that dedicates their breeding to "brindle" and "blue" GSD's.
They only breed to produce brindle or blue or blue brindle pups, with the hopes of adding a "liver" colored bitch to their program soon.

I've heard of "liver" colored GSD's, and obviously white and "panda" shepherds, and assume "blue" shepherds are following along the same path?

I wasn't particularly impressed with the weak looking dogs on display on their website, and saw money signs coming before correctness of the dogs.... and to be willingly and knowingly breeding dogs that don't conform to the standard, just seems unethical to me.

I guess I think people who prefer the unacceptable colors or patterns, have their reasons. And to love a dog shouldn't be based solely on it's appearance. It's one thing to adopt an incorrect dog, have it altered so as it can't reproduce and love it for it's life, but to spend THAT kind of money on an incorrect dog, with full registration and breeding rights is beyond my comprehension.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, first, there is no such thing as a "brindle" GSD. Brindle was bred out of the breed many decades ago.

There are some people on here with blue GSDs and they are beautiful. One in CA that was from a reputable breeder that threw blues on a first litter from a pair.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, first, there is no such thing as a "brindle" GSD. Brindle was bred out of the breed many decades ago.

There are some people on here with blue GSDs and they are beautiful. One in CA that was from a reputable breeder that threw blues on a first litter from a pair.
When I hear "brindle" I think Dutch Shepherds.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have a liver GSD. I got her when she was 4 years old. I don't care if the AKC or any other organizations says her nose is the wrong color. She is a beautiful girl and I couldn't love her any more than I do. From what I understand it is a recessive gene. Rusti didn't come from a breeder who intentionally breeds livers and blues but I do have a friend that does that and that is her choice. She is definitely not in it for the money. Other breeders may be in it for the money but there are breeders who breed black and tans that are just in it for the money so I don't see any difference.
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I know the 'off' colors do appeal to many people - but those are not people who GENERALLY understand the breed and respect the fact that a standard defines a breed. LOL I think the solid blue dogs I have seen photos of are absolutely beautiful!!! But I would not breed one just because I think it is striking! A friend has a rescue blue Weim, came from an Amish puppy mill and had escaped onto a highway....gorgeous color, IMO much prettier than the taupe colored weims....but the dog is fraught with health and temperament problems because it was bred by a breeder for color without any other criteria or testing.....

So breeding for color against standard....???? Not done by responsible breeders - if it crops up, well a good home should/would be a goal for the pup just like it's littermates....but not a breeding home.

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Old 12-16-2012, 09:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't know if this counts but I have a black/silver. Which I'm almost positive isn't "acceptable." I don't think mine was bred for thus particular. There were black/tan puppies in the litter too. He's not registered nor has a pedigree. He's a beautiful dog and I live him more than anything.
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GSDs don't hold the market for being bred for colors.
The AKC Dachshund people will tell you that you have to show reds or black/tans or you have little to no chance of winning any conformation shows.

But dapples are bred constantly and bred together to get that oh so lovely double dapple coloration.
I don't think there's a breed out there not being tainted by being bred for color alone, which is why poor temperaments are cropping up where none existed. If not for color (as in Golden retrievers for instance) just breeding "because we can" and to earn a bit of Christmas money murders the rest of the breeds.

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Old 12-16-2012, 11:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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if i found the right dog from a reputable breeder with an off color, i wouldn't let that be a deal breaker, but i have no plans to breed.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Man decided that the colors were not acceptable-not nature. Black and silver is often see among the American bloodlines-my boy although regristered as blk & silver varied between Gold or Cream depending on the season and those colors were very intense-certainly didn't affect his ability to work or provide companionship.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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My white (cream) GSD is not "acceptable". If I was blind I guarantee I wouldn't be able to determine the difference between her and an "acceptable" color. She works just as hard to please me and demonstrates her intelligence on a daily basis. So I still don't understand why certain colors are shunned.
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