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Hi guys
Pardon me for what will be a very stupid question to you. I am noticing loads of Von Strxxxxeinxxxxburg names!!!!!! I'm familiar with kennel names, and then the addition of a word that is the litter word and then the names the owner picks and then the actual call name. But I see loads of "Von xxxxxxxxxxxburgs" and I'm wondering whether those are German imports who must have German names. If so.....how do nonGerman speakers find these names? Told you it would be a stupid question!!! Pardon the ignorance. Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App |
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Von, vom and naming your kennel.
Vom or Von take a poll Has to do with the German convention of naming. Though, lots of American showline kennels use the naming convention you might be more familiar with. |
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IMO - it's a form of "status" symbol for those wanting "german" breeding for their GSD. Saw much of a similar thing when I was showing Irish Setters. Lots of Irish-sounding kennel names.
Might mean something in the show ring, means little if what you want is a sound pet. Confirmation showing is political. The more popular-sounding or "legitimate" sounding names gives headway. Other than "prestige", means nothing if you're looking for a pet or a sound K9. Don't get caught up in names - look for the qualities you specifically need or want. |
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Yes, "Xxxx von Xxxxberg" are German (or German-style) kennel names. It can mean the dog was born in Germany, or it can be an American breeder using a German name. You have to look at the registration numbers to know where the dog was born. If in Germany, it will start with "SV". If in America, it will start with "AKC".
"von" (or vom, or von der) means "of" or "from" in German. The last word is the kennel name, say, "Steinberg". So "von Steinberg" means "of Steinberg" The first word in the kennel name is the dog's name, say, "Max". So the dog's full regsitered name is "Max von Steinberg" which loosley translated, means "Max from Steinberg kennel". Then there will be an SV or AKC number. Hope this answers your question. |
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my 3 are not papered but i have given them all "von" names LOL
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Awesome!!!
Thank you for that explanation. So...if, for example, I chose as his call name Kyrie (I LOVE that!!!) and I went to, say Haus Juris, the puppy would be named Kyrie von Haus Juris. I like it!!!!
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Max Von barkstoomuch, T.D.Inc, EPI Survivor, Bloat Survivor
Heidi Von affraidofpeople Lilah Von cantsitstill Love it!
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MACH3 Bretta Lee Wildhaus MXG MJG MXF MFB TQX HIT CGC TC Glory B Wildhaus AX, AXJ, XF "It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious." - Oscar Wilde
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With registered names there are rules, you can't use another breeder's kennel name, for example. Usually the breeder chooses the registered name of the pup, or at least part of it. Some breeders will let you choose the dog's registered name, ie "Kyrie", but you must use their kennel name. So "Kyrie von Jurishaus", not "Kyrie vom Lilliam" or anything like that. Many breeders name all pups in a litter with the same letter, so say in your pup's litter there would be Kyrie, Krash, Kougar, King, Kira, etc. That would be the "K" litter vom Jurishaus. It's a good way for people to keep track of bloodlines and pedigrees; if you see any pup with a "K" name von Jurishuas, you automatically know who the sire and dam, brother and sisters are (if you are familiar with the breeder). Does that make sense? And the naming protocol is different between SV and AKC registration. I think the AKC will let you name your dog anything, as long as the name isn't taken. With the SV, the name has to be approved. |
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![]() I guess you liked the Mr. Mister song in the 80s... Now it is stuck in my head, thanks! "Kyrie eleison, down the road that I must travel.." Mr Mister - Kyrie [HQ] - YouTube It's actually a little more complicated than that. Each consecutive litter has its puppies names beginning with a letter of the alphabet. Hans is from the "n" litter, so his registered name had to begin with an "n". I chose Norden because it means "North" in German, and he came from north of where I live. ![]() Hans is his call name-- what he is called at home. So he is Norden Hans von Narnia, and quickly growing into such a lofty name, LOL. It seemed too much at 9 weeks.
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