will my untrained dog protect me?

[codmaster]

If your dog won't go up to someone, that is not protectivness; but I would suspect it is fear or at least maybe a little shyness esp. at her puppy age. For true defense the dog would be at the end of the leash pulling to get at the threat, not barking to try to scare away the scarey thing.

Wouldn't want to really count on a dog with behavior like that (at least from the little I can assume from your brief post and not seeing the dog in actual action. It is hard to interpret, of course.

BTW, just between us, a dog that istruly to be a protector is exactly the kind of dog who will go up to people calmly and socially. the toughest dog i ever met- once the top scoring dog in protection at the German national Seiger show (want a more protective dog than that?) once was walked around a dog show by my wife (didn'tknow the dogs history) perfectly calmly and met a number of other folks! THAT is what I would want a true protective dog to be like and with an ideal temperament!

[kelina]

Originally Posted by codmaster

If your dog won't go up to someone, that is not protectivness; but I would suspect it is fear or at least maybe a little shyness esp. at her puppy age. For true defense the dog would be at the end of the leash pulling to get at the threat, not barking to try to scare away the scarey thing.

Wouldn't want to really count on a dog with behavior like that (at least from the little I can assume from your brief post and not seeing the dog in actual action. It is hard to interpret, of course.

BTW, just between us, a dog that istruly to be a protector is exactly the kind of dog who will go up to people calmly and socially. the toughest dog i ever met- once the top scoring dog in protection at the German national Seiger show (want a more protective dog than that?) once was walked around a dog show by my wife (didn'tknow the dogs history) perfectly calmly and met a number of other folks! THAT is what I would want a true protective dog to be like and with an ideal temperament!

YES ! exactly what I want! A well socialized dog but a devil in the inside LOL!

Ok so my dog on then leash actually pulls me and really wants to get at some people.. boy especially other dogs.. I pull her back but it makes it worse. Then if I dont run with her she chokes herself ! People look at me and I just put my head down in shame..

My wild pooch gone mad

[codmaster]

Originally Posted by kelina

YES ! exactly what I want! A well socialized dog but a devil in the inside LOL!

Ok so my dog on then leash actually pulls me and really wants to get at some people.. boy especially other dogs.. I pull her back but it makes it worse. Then if I dont run with her she chokes herself ! People look at me and I just put my head down in shame..

My wild pooch gone mad

Sounds like your dog needs a bit of training. Have you considered seeing a good pro trainer?

[julie87]

Kelina, thank you your dogs are cute too looks like you have a pair of white and black

And of course expect more responses from others such as "untrained will not protect". To me its bs. I come from Russia i lived in a small village, the GSD there are pretty much strictly for protection and guarding the house and I have NEVER heard of these dogs NOT protecting their family even though they were not trained. The is a reason why so many dog breeds have different personalities. GSD are the best! USA treats dog differentely and imo over socialize them to the point where the dog likes everyone. Dogs are suppose tome confident and not afraid but they should not be jumping on people being all playful I would not trust that kind of dog to protect me. My dog to me is my best friend, a protector, a companion I just love her and I know she's got my back.

[kelina]

Originally Posted by julie87

Kelina, thank you your dogs are cute too looks like you have a pair of white and black

And of course expect more responses from others such as "untrained will not protect". To me its bs. I come from Russia i lived in a small village, the GSD there are pretty much strictly for protection and guarding the house and I have NEVER heard of these dogs NOT protecting their family. USA treats dog differentely. My dog to me is my best friend, a protector, a companion I just love her and I know she's got my back.

Awee thankyou ! And yes they are white and black

I understand how you feel exactly! These dogs are basically guard, herding, protection, dogs. A real K9! I did my research and all.

I actually think most people lie when they say they dont expect their dog to attack a predator. But who knows?

[kelina]

Originally Posted by codmaster

Sounds like your dog needs a bit of training. Have you considered seeing a good pro trainer?

I really want to. I am kind of worried because I dont want people being afraid of my baby! She is really friendly.. she just gets all protective at times.

[codmaster]

Originally Posted by kelina

I really want to. I am kind of worried because I dont want people being afraid of my baby! She is really friendly.. she just gets all protective at times.

FA is not protective except maybe the dog is afraid and trying to protect itself!

Not usually both at the same time!

To be truly protective (as GSD's are supposed to be) the dog has to be able to recognize a real threat! Socialize and training and exposure to many many things help IF the dog has the right genetic makeup (many GSD's do not!).

You might be able to get someone who understands to test your dog if you can find a local ScH (IPO) club in your area. Could be an eye opener!

[kelina]

Originally Posted by codmaster

FA is not protective except maybe the dog is afraid and trying to protect itself!

Not usually both at the same time!

To be truly protective (as GSD's are supposed to be) the dog has to be able to recognize a real threat! Socialize and training and exposure to many many things help IF the dog has the right genetic makeup (many GSD's do not!).

You might be able to get someone who understands to test your dog if you can find a local ScH (IPO) club in your area. Could be an eye opener!

Ill call up Caesar millan ROFL!
Jk. But yeah I was thinking of putting her in some obedience training..

[codmaster]

Originally Posted by julie87

Kelina, thank you your dogs are cute too looks like you have a pair of white and black

And of course expect more responses from others such as "untrained will not protect". To me its bs. I come from Russia i lived in a small village, the GSD there are pretty much strictly for protection and guarding the house and I have NEVER heard of these dogs NOT protecting their family even though they were not trained. The is a reason why so many dog breeds have different personalities. GSD are the best! USA treats dog differentely and imo over socialize them to the point where the dog likes everyone. Dogs are suppose tome confident and not afraid but they should not be jumping on people being all playful I would not trust that kind of dog to protect me. My dog to me is my best friend, a protector, a companion I just love her and I know she's got my back.

Just like with people - one never knows what someone (including self!) will do in an emergency (i.e. one comes under attack from man or beast!) until that moment arrives to prove it.

Want to bet how many soldiers freeze the first time someone shoots at them?

Don't knock it until/unless you have been there!

[codmaster]

Originally Posted by kelina

Ill call up Caesar millan ROFL!
Jk. But yeah I was thinking of putting her in some obedience training..

You should certainly contact Cesar. It really sounds like you could help him with your knowledge of dogs behavior.

Good luck with your puppy, and I really hope that you never find yourself in a situayion that you need your dogs protectivness!