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Old 11-18-2012, 07:25 PM   #91 (permalink)
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I do need to take both pups to the whole social training. Because when dogs walk her fur flys up, shes pulling and choking her self. Its really bad.

I just need to find someone worthy of it.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:49 PM   #92 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=Jag;2633283]I have had several that were not 'breed standard' for various reasons. My last male never became 'aloof' with strangers. You can socialize a shepherd to death, and that dog should still become 'aloof' to strangers when it grows up. That doesn't mean aggressive. That means not overly friendly...

I never said not socialize. Of course socialize them but i do believe you can overdo it. If I had to choose friendly dog and stable and fearful aggressive I would choose the friendly one. My dog is my friend and goes everywhere with me I wouldn't want her to attack for no reason. I wouldnt be able to live with knowing she hurt a child.. When I take my dog places I feel comfortable and I trust her judgement she used to be fearful when she was smaller but now she is becoming more confident.


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At 5.5 months a dog barking and growling is not protecting you. They may be showing fear which can be an issue as they get older or potentially aggression (not as commonly seen this young, fear is more likely) but a 5 month old is still a baby so it is more likely if a puppy that young is "protecting" anyone it is him/herself.
I would definitely be sure to work on socialization and training to be sure they can grow up to be confident as much as possible, you don't want to encourage a 5 month old puppy growling at people...
Early socialization is important, the sooner the better.
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At 5.5 months a dog barking and growling is not protecting you. They may be showing fear which can be an issue as they get older or potentially aggression (not as commonly seen this young, fear is more likely) but a 5 month old is still a baby so it is more likely if a puppy that young is "protecting" anyone it is him/herself.
I would definitely be sure to work on socialization and training to be sure they can grow up to be confident as much as possible, you don't want to encourage a 5 month old puppy growling at people...
Early socialization is important, the sooner the better.

What they said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:29 AM   #95 (permalink)
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I think most dogs with herding or protection in their genetic make-up will protect their pack if they perceive a threat. The trick is helping them understand what actually constitutes a threat.

I've noticed that our very young GSD is already assessing situations and people the way I'd like him to. He watches people and you can see the wheels turning as he tries to decide if he feels okay about them or not. But if I tell him that it is okay and call him to a person, he's just fine and friendly.
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At 5.5 months a dog barking and growling is not protecting you. They may be showing fear which can be an issue as they get older or potentially aggression (not as commonly seen this young, fear is more likely) but a 5 month old is still a baby so it is more likely if a puppy that young is "protecting" anyone it is him/herself.
I would definitely be sure to work on socialization and training to be sure they can grow up to be confident as much as possible, you don't want to encourage a 5 month old puppy growling at people...
Early socialization is important, the sooner the better.
I dont encourage it whatsoever. I yank her, tell her stop, leave the scene.. gah its a mess..
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I dont encourage it whatsoever. I yank her, tell her stop, leave the scene.. gah its a mess..
Yanking a pup, especially when it is already exhibiting fear, will only increase the fear aggression. Why not try getting the pup's attention back on you, step back a few feet, do some casual ob work, play with it, treats as long as his attention is on you.
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This is no different then asking "if I got jumped in an alley by one person, would I be able defend myself" the only correct answer is, probably not, maybe yes, plenty of anecdotal stories for each side. Only way to know is to train, practice, spar, and test yourself. Then you know for sure what your abilities are and how you react under minor stress. The only way to know how you will react in higher stress is to go pick a fight somewhere. Same concept for a dog.
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This is no different then asking "if I got jumped in an alley by one person, would I be able defend myself" the only correct answer is, probably not, maybe yes, plenty of anecdotal stories for each side. Only way to know is to train, practice, spar, and test yourself. Then you know for sure what your abilities are and how you react under minor stress. The only way to know how you will react in higher stress is to go pick a fight somewhere. Same concept for a dog.
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Yanking a pup, especially when it is already exhibiting fear, will only increase the fear aggression. Why not try getting the pup's attention back on you, step back a few feet, do some casual ob work, play with it, treats as long as his attention is on you.

I mean im 4"11 if I dont yank the leash back, I fly with the dog. So what I do is yank and walk away from the scene. I dont tense up when my dog is acting crazy.. I just pull her back, start walking away.
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