Disturbing

[carmspack]

what a buncha poo . Temperament -- these are nervous dogs , holding tight, flicking and licking and head weaving - oh man . Movement , knit and purl , cow hocked, running downhill - roach back , wobbly rears .
Most decent was the one running at 1:11 . The one running on 2:00 did not even trot - he paced the entire time !!!!!

and that is my moderate statement

Carmen
Carmspack Working German Shepherd Dogs

[Konotashi]

I noticed that the handling on some of the dogs is mediocre. However, some of the dogs have roached backs and are cow hocked. A GSD should be able to hold its head high while gating, and some of those dogs don't seem to be able to do that.

I went to an AKC show once and there was a six month old GSD pup that literally looked crippled. Her knees were almost sliding on the ground and her back legs were criss-crossing while she walked. It was quite upsetting to see. However, those were ASL, not WGSL, which are two different ball games.

[TaZoR]

I turned the vid off..it is disturbing..i would like to bind the owners feet..or bash their knees and parade them up and down main street

[carmspack]

a GSD in a trot should have the head and topline level , head held high lifts the front - which prevents the muscular harness of the shoulders and front to open up.

Here is a Fred Lanting article -- Front and Rear Angulation in the Working Dog | Fred Lanting which should have a thread of its own - same beautiful CORRECT movement seen on Hetty "von Lord Fandor" even when running on her own sans leash , in the field

Carmen
Carmspack Working German Shepherd Dogs

[Konotashi]

'Up high' was the wrong term - but some of those dogs have their heads way down low and it looks awful. I'm not very experienced, so I don't know if it's the dog or the handlers.

[carmspack]

dog's conformation - they have to run downhill

[Lucy Dog]

Kaz... isn't your dog a german show line?

[Kaz]

Originally Posted by TaZoR

I turned the vid off..it is disturbing..i would like to bind the owners feet..or bash their knees and parade them up and down main street

My feelings exactly!!!

I think a true show would be where you let loose the dog and watch it for its natural elegance. A dog or a wolf walking proud and majestic is an awesome sight to behold! Alert nose, perked ears, fluffy tail!

I would even advocate throwing in a target toy in a thicket and time the dog for retrieval.

Parading a dog and deciding on its cosmetic appearance is so wrong!

Havent we learnt from anorexic models and toddler beauty queens (Google Eden Wood), that we human beings don't really know any limits.

In the words of Einstein,
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.”

[Lmilr]

I'm really no expert or anything like that but I have to say....that video was really horrible. Most of those dogs hind legs just look like they would be in pain just walking around. And in all honesty....I think Jager would look better going around that ring just mearly because he walks on leash ten times better then most of those dogs did. It looked like they were trying to go forward and backward at the same time.
Just really really weird in general I think.