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Old 07-27-2010, 02:34 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I found him on Shiloshepherds info. (Tritons Boss Selah)

http://www.shilohshepherds.info/sela...%20results.pdf

Go down the list, you'll find his name on there.
Just because it is on that website does not mean the dogs are Shiloh Shepherds. Note in the info under breed it says German Shepherd Dog. Most likely these dogs were used in outcrosses of the Shiloh when they wanted to breed to GSDs, or they are listed because they show up in Shiloh pedigrees as they were used in outcrosses.
There are plenty of breeders with large GSDs who don't look like the standard at all-- that doesn't mean they aren't purebred though, just that they are not bred to the standard (or that they are bred to a breeder's own "standard" to look a certain way they like, not like the breed is supposed to look.)
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:13 PM   #62 (permalink)
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You know, over here, these dogs will never be purebred German Shepherds. They don't even look like German Shepherds.

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The dogs are not titled nor have they appropriate papers.
Secondly they are way outside the Standard
Third they mix white GSD's with their so called "GSD's" which over here is NOT a GSD, they are Swiss Shepherds and are banned from the SV. And that makes them mutts!

These dogs, in my book, will never be purebred! They breed for size and for size only.
The only credit I give them is that they get them OFA certified.
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One of those breeders of XL dogs (the one I originally contacted) says that they are purebred GSD's, and specifies that they aren't shiloh or king shepherds, and that they have AKC paperwork, so it is possible that they've just been breeding the biggest ones.
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One of those breeders of XL dogs (the one I originally contacted) says that they are purebred GSD's, and specifies that they aren't shiloh or king shepherds, and that they have AKC paperwork, so it is possible that they've just been breeding the biggest ones.

Sinisters breeder is breeding for very large GSD's.
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THose look like lions!
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You know, over here, these dogs will never be purebred German Shepherds. They don't even look like German Shepherds.

First of all:

The dogs are not titled nor have they appropriate papers.
Secondly they are way outside the Standard
Third they mix white GSD's with their so called "GSD's" which over here is NOT a GSD, they are Swiss Shepherds and are banned from the SV. And that makes them mutts!

These dogs, in my book, will never be purebred! They breed for size and for size only.
The only credit I give them is that they get them OFA certified.

These dogs are mainly bred to be pets and to be wonderful with people and children, and other dogs, while maintaining the traits that make GSDs. My Eva is fearless, curious, blazingly intelligent, highly-trained, and especially, protective of my 8-month and two-year old nieces, both of whom she has known since infants. She loves to play with other dogs and is very gentle with the three puppies she has watched grow up (not hers, not GSDs). There is not one desireable trait she is lacking, and she has plusses. Never chewed up my house, is very calm inside, and there is not one trace of anxiety, just those beautiful Shepherd eyes which tell me she is 100% GSD, oh, and that little registration number thingy and a well-documented past of registered GSDs for both sires and dams, including a few SZ numbers.
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Sinisters breeder is breeding for very large GSD's.
Why?
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Purebred doesn't mean Well Bred
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These dogs are mainly bred to be pets and to be wonderful with people and children, and other dogs, while maintaining the traits that make GSDs. My Eva is fearless, curious, blazingly intelligent, highly-trained, and especially, protective of my 8-month and two-year old nieces, both of whom she has known since infants. She loves to play with other dogs and is very gentle with the three puppies she has watched grow up (not hers, not GSDs). There is not one desireable trait she is lacking, and she has plusses. Never chewed up my house, is very calm inside, and there is not one trace of anxiety, just those beautiful Shepherd eyes which tell me she is 100% GSD, oh, and that little registration number thingy and a well-documented past of registered GSDs for both sires and dams, including a few SZ numbers.
What traits would these be? Obviously not the GSD standard since they are deliberately going against at least some of this.

It is very nice that your dog turned out so well for you, but does not excuse the breeder for breeding against the standard to satisfy their own personal view of what a GSD should be and look like.
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BEcause of what the dog was BRED to do.

GSDs were bred to be working dogs. Being able to go all day long without getting exhausted.

Can you imagine a 150 dog being able to work all day long?

Would a Border Collie be able to work all day if they were 100+ pounds?
Eva goes all day long about 200 days/year covering about 20 miles each of those days.

She is a few months over two and weighs 76 lbs and is 26 1/2 inches, and will likely finish in the low- to mid-80s. We are not talking about 150-lb dogs here.

If the hypothetical 100-lb border collie were of correct proportion and corresponding bone structure and musculature, sure why not? Happens in humans all the time.
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