Panda Shepherds?

[Kaity]

I've heard of them before. I think it totally ruins the breed. Does anybody know how this coloring came about? (ex. breeding a GSD with a part GSD part other breed dog?)
That sounded so stupid but ya'll know what I'm getting at I'm sure?
Just like the merle genes in some dogs! There had to be a break in the chain SOMEWHERE because it's not albino and it's surely not black and tan!

[Chicagocanine]

I'm not sure how it would ruin the breed?

It was a gene mutation which caused a type of white patterning. There were no mixed breeds or other breeds involved.

[Lin]

Originally Posted By: Chicagocanine
It was a gene mutation which caused a type of white patterning. There were no mixed breeds or other breeds involved.

Yep. I also don't think it will ruin the breed. So far there have been no health problems linked to the gene mutation (such as health problems linked to double merle etc.) The breeders that are working with panda shepherds seemed responsible to me, titling and health checking parents before breeding. I don't see how this is any different than white GSDs "ruining the breed" and I think if WGSDs can never be shown as GSDs, then support them being recognized as their own breed so they can.

[Lin]

Originally Posted By: KaitykaityThere had to be a break in the chain SOMEWHERE because it's not albino and it's surely not black and tan!

Are you meaning white shepherds when you say albino? Because white GSDs are not albino, albino is a complete lack of coloring leading to clear hair shafts that appear white and pink eyes. Correctly bred white GSDs have black leather. Also, many white shepherds will have a cream or orange pigment on them, including some shepherds that are genetically white but appear cream/beige over the entire body.

The white gene that leads to white toes or white on the chest is not the same as the genes for white shepherds. This was a false misconception that lead to white shepherds being disqualified from showing; as breeders believed breeding a white GSD lead to more/larger white on colored dogs.

[FuryanGoddess]

I have never heard of such a thing, but looking at the pix of them, I think they're cute. I like it, which is odd because I'm not that big of a fan of the all white or all black? Weird...

[SouthernThistle]

Somewhere on this board you can find thread upon thread upon thread regarding Panda Shepherds The answers you're looking for are, more than likely, going to be in those threads.

[Samba]

They are all GSD genetically. No break in the chain as far as breeding. Spontaneous genetic mutation does occur.. its that kind of world. Some like the color, some don't but the original parentage was a two black and tan all GSD pairing.

[GSDSunshine]

Originally Posted By: FuryanGoddessI have never heard of such a thing, but looking at the pix of them, I think they're cute. I like it, which is odd because I'm not that big of a fan of the all white or all black? Weird...

Dakota is pretending he didn't hear that. Well technically he has white on his legs.....So I guess he doesn't count.

[Vinnie]

Originally Posted By: SambaThey are all GSD genetically. No break in the chain as far as breeding. Spontaneous genetic mutation does occur.. its that kind of world.

As I recall there was no DNA testing saying these dogs are purebreds. I'll have to go look for those old threads because I don't remember for sure. I do recall that they are registered as having a sire & dam that are registered as GSDs.

Spontaneous genetic mutation does occur. Spontaneously not repeatedly.

[Vinnie]

Here's the only other thread I can find on this ---> Panda Shepherd?

There were a few more at one time with a boat load of great info but they must have been deleted during a board cleaning??? Sorry. This one is not as good but it does have a little more info.