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Old 05-08-2014, 12:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Do you ever irritate your pups?

I don't ever purposefully irritate my pups.

But my husband does. And I wonder if it's a bad thing?

I think it's scary because what if the pup 'snaps' or even accidentally bites you trying to get away?

But then I think, maybe it's a good thing because it really teaches them to physically tolerate so much more. For example, Smokey wouldn't let us pick him up. But since my husband kept doing it to him, now he tolerates it. And maybe it'll come in handy when he's older. Or, for example, Smokey HATED being touched on his tail or his behind but now he tolerates it and this might help us at the vet or if he's around a tail pulling child...

Do you ever irritate your pups?
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Never and I don't allow anyone else to either. Most of the time you can condition them to tolerate all the stuff you mentioned. My oldest doesn't like when people other then family grab her collar and one day she was sick and throwing up and a friend grabbed her collar to pull her off the bed, she bit him. Completely his fault and he never did that again. She might have been okay if she wasn't feeling sick to begin with. I can grab her anytime with no issues, I do request a muzzle for my little spitfire at the vet , even though she has never gone after them.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Not on purpose, ever. I think I irritate him when he cannot steal my food, cannot pester the old dog or when I close the bathroom door before he can get to the toilet paper roll.
I never allow anyone to irritate my dogs, no matter who it is.
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My boyfriend purposely irritates my 19 month old, Varick. I, personally, think it hurts the bond between the two. Varick gets snappy and rough, then my boyfriend gets angry. Well, I can honestly say that I can't blame the dog!
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no, i have more respect for mine than to do something like that
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I am not sure I understand exactly what you mean?

I bite Draco's ear, lol, it starts our wrestling match. As soon as I do it he gets all hyped up and he'll chew on me but very gently and he always stops when I say "ow" or "enough." I don't know if that's irritating or not.

I tickle Sinister's feet when he sleeps, he'll randomly kick at me and I giggle.

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My boyfriend purposely irritates my 19 month old, Varick. I, personally, think it hurts the bond between the two. Varick gets snappy and rough, then my boyfriend gets angry. Well, I can honestly say that I can't blame the dog!
It doesn't only irritate the dog I guess? And then him getting angry? Red flag!
There are plenty of "boyfriend" threads out here.
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I don't purposely irritate my boy. However, I have really bad restless leg syndrome and there are times the meds don't cover it. I have to get up and walk around, stand in a warm shower, stretch, toss and turn, etc The dog gets a little ticked like "go to sleep already!". I don't tease him or try to tick him off, but I know he gets bugged when this happens and sort of gets mad at me.
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Could you provide some for instances? I'm trying to figure out the difference between roughhousing, instigating play and irritating. I grab Varik's forelegs quite often and has bites at my hands, but he enjoys it and it leads to more gentle rough housing like toe getting (he's figured out to lie with one leg curled under his head so I can only get one foot .. smarty pants) but he's grinning the whole time.
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The worst part is the dog snaps/bites while trying to get away…that means the dog is in defense and wants to get away rather than fight/play.

At first I thought you were talking about drive building, which wouldn’t be such a bad thing, but if your husband/boyfriend/whoever is doing it and the dog is clearly not having a good time and is getting defensive, this is very dangerous. You’re creating a situation in which although the dog probably won’t bite its owner, given the same situation somewhere out in public, it will snap at a stranger.

There is a better way to “irritate” a dog. It’s to withhold the reward or something they want. You can either move the toy fast enough and block the dog when it goes for it, or you restrain the dog and don’t allow it to get to the toy. This is a fun thing for them, the dog will go into prey rather than defense. You should also be able to wrestle or “fight” with the dog for the reward object in this situation and it would lead to the same type of confidence you’re seeing with your dog…but in a much more positive situation.

Are you back in Chicago? I know it would be a bit of a drive for you, but if you’d like to come up to one of my training sessions we can probably teach you and your husband a much more positive way to play with your dogs and get the same results. PM me if you're interested and maybe we can work something out.
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