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aztecapiramide 04-10-2014 12:00 PM

Input on E-collar training for chasing Flies all over Du-du (2nd post)
 
Did some research on line and the only thing I came across was maybe some E-collar training. Any input would be great.
Please help !!! the other alternate is to give him up to a GSD rescue. We can’t have 24/7 watch over him.

See original post below:

This is our third German shepherd we have owed and this is the first time I have come across this problem. A little background first we adopted NENE at 9 months from a lady that was moving and she did not have room for him in her new place.
We currently live in Lancaster Ca. Our home has a large back yard and I created a very nice concrete dog run on the side of the house that is approximately 15ftx25ft with a doggy door on the side of the garage.

The problem we are having is NĕNĕ started chasing flies. It all started last summer in the backyard he would be in the yard and would take a bio-break and then he would start chasing the flies that were attracted by the bio-break he would run over the du-du and it would be all over his legs and all over the back yard a total mess. It subsided during the winter no flies. This year it started up again we have been putting him in the dog run and we have the same problem bio-break chasing flies du-du all over the place legs, concrete, again a total mess. I know some of you would say just pick up after him.

However We take him out to the dog run just before we leave for work in the morning we can't be there all day waiting for him to do his bio-break so can pick up and clean up. We never had this problem with any of our other German Shepherd Dogs we would let them out in the dog run in the morning we would come back in the afternoon pick up and clean the dog run no problems with NĕNĕ we get home and there is a total mess in the dog run the worst part is he covered in du-du We want to be able to fix the problem we don’t want to give him up but we are at the end of the rope PLEASE Help!

DJEtzel 04-10-2014 12:03 PM

I would recommend bringing him inside and crating, so that he can only go to the bathroom under your supervision.

Chip18 04-10-2014 12:21 PM

I have to say this is an odd behaviour?? But I think if you can find a qualified trainer you can stop it with a correctly used E collar.

"Correctly" used being the key, you can't just slap a "tool" on a dog and expect miracles. :)

Bequavious 04-10-2014 03:44 PM

What other methods have you tried to train him? How long are you usually at work? I think the easiest solution would be to teach him not to go in the concrete run at all, but wait until you are home and then pick up after him. I do think the e-collar would work, but unless you already had one, I think it's unnecessary in this situation.

jocoyn 04-10-2014 04:00 PM

What about the other suggestions of getting rid of the flies by way of fans and screening? How about walking or really running the dog before going to work so their is no feces in the run? My dog is outside most of the time during the day while I work in a "run" attached to the side of the house. He usually does not go in that run because he goes out in the yard when we play our game of fetch first thing in the yard.

How about doing same and crating the dog in the house? Does he get enough exercise? It sounds like he is bored and chasing the flies is his outlet for exercise and excitement.

Galathiel 04-10-2014 05:31 PM

Since he's doing this while you're away, I'm not sure you would be able to use an e-collar effectively to correct the behavior. If he's only in it during the day, does he really NEED to potty in the pen? Do you take him potty before putting him in there?

JeanKBBMMMAAN 04-11-2014 07:28 AM

Your dog needs to be seen by a behaviorist - and probably needs more to do when you are home, and less to do when you are gone.

wyoung2153 04-11-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jocoyn (Post 5356169)
What about the other suggestions of getting rid of the flies by way of fans and screening? How about walking or really running the dog before going to work so their is no feces in the run? My dog is outside most of the time during the day while I work in a "run" attached to the side of the house. He usually does not go in that run because he goes out in the yard when we play our game of fetch first thing in the yard.

How about doing same and crating the dog in the house? Does he get enough exercise? It sounds like he is bored and chasing the flies is his outlet for exercise and excitement.

^^This..

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Originally Posted by Galathiel (Post 5356681)
Since he's doing this while you're away, I'm not sure you would be able to use an e-collar effectively to correct the behavior. If he's only in it during the day, does he really NEED to potty in the pen? Do you take him potty before putting him in there?

Does he have a command associated with going potty. Before I leave, every day and evening before bed, I tell Titan to "go Potty" he goes outside and goes to the bathroom. I know his poo schedule too, and when I know he hasn't gone I say "go on" and he runs to the back and poos. It's very convenient.. did you ever train yours with a command associated with it? Might be worth a shot.

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Originally Posted by DJEtzel (Post 5354753)
I would recommend bringing him inside and crating, so that he can only go to the bathroom under your supervision.

And honestly, this^^ crate training would help you with the issue of not having to cleen poo off his paws on a daily basis, but wouldn't stop the behavior. If you PM me, I can get you the name of a couple good trainers out there in Lancaster.. that may be your best bet in regards to the behavior.

Question, when he does this, and you see him doing it, what do you do?

Blanketback 04-11-2014 09:34 AM

I would take him out on a leash, let him do his business, pick it right up to dispose of, and then place him in his run before heading off to work. There's no lingering mess or attracting flies this way.

jocoyn 04-11-2014 09:44 AM

The flies create other problems anyway as they inflict painful bites on the dog's ear and nose.


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